Saturday, 22 December 2012

[Rant] Is Beyonce A Shameless Hypocrite?



Is Beyonce a hypocrite? I'm starting to think that the only thing that matters to this entertainer is the size of her bank balance and the brightness of her star. Not a bad thing in itself- who am I to judge someone's desire for fame and money- but it becomes increasingly jarring when viewed alongside the conflicting attempts made by the singer to prove that her concerns are of the loftier, more socially conscious, kind.

This month we had Beyonce's 50 million dollar, mega-bucks deal with Pepsi finalised. A deal that will see the "Crazy In Love" singer schilling cans of pop in exchange for the funding of "media placements and promotions around the world...and a “creative development fund". Who pays who to do what isn't something I'm usually bothered about. Besides, Beyonce has been sponsored by Pepsi before [here].


But it becomes more of an issue this time around because just last year B was fronting the "Let's Move" campaign to tackle childhood obesity with Michelle Obama. Obsesity that has been linked to the very type of drinks Beyonce is now going to promote.[Source].


I understand that no one's forcing anybody to drink Pepsi, or to drink in anything but moderation, but with the amount of money herself and husband are pooling- a reported half a billion dollars- how can this look like anything but ham-fisted greed and a lack of integrity.

Then we have Beyonce's involvement in the World Humanitarian Day  2012. An annual event orchestrated by the UN to highlight the heroic action of those helping to bring humanitarian aid to dangerous areas. As it would bring their message to a much wider audience, it made sense for the UN to involve a big star like Beyonce in their campaign. And how did she decide to help the cause and show her honour in being chosen for the role?  She used it to promote her floundering album 4 by singing "I was here" at the United Nations.

But she didn't stop there! As well as the handful of interviews, she also donated the profits from the sales of the Diane Warren penned song to the UN charity fund. But it didn't shake the whiff of self promotion from the gesture. Besides, surely it wouldn't have taken much, and certainly would have meant more, for a prolific songwriter/producer/creative force like Beyonce to write an original cut for such a great cause, giving away her own song writing royalties in the process.



If shoehorning her own songs into noble causes wasn't icky enough, today we have Beyonce featured in a video calling for a change to gun laws in the United States[see below]. A great cause, no doubt. But it's sentiment that would have been more believable if she wasn't glamorising guns in her own "art," or her husband, Jay Z, wasn't known for his own violent past [link].



Just check out the stills from the trailer of "Video Phone," below. These are images taken from a song that makes no reference to guns, or violence whatsoever. So why are they present? If that's not glamorising guns, then I don't know what is.







In fairness to Beyonce, a lot of the celebrities in the video calling for changes to the law are people who glamorise the use of guns in their own respective industries, but it doesn't take away from the inconsistencies that mire the singer's own career.

All I ask for is some consistency and a modicum of conviction in the endeavours you pick, Beyonce. Either that or just say it's all about the money and building a holier-than-thou legacy, and keep doing your thing as you are. But I suppose I shouldn't really be surprised by the inconsistencies. You only need to look at her back catalogue to see she's a serial flip-floper. One minute she's calling other women "Nasty Girls", then she's trying to sell me female empowerment and solidarity- "Independent Women"/"Run The World"- all while writing subservient lyrics like:
My life would be purposeless without you, Let me help you take off your shoes, Untie your shoestrings ,take off your cuff-links, what you want to eat Boo? Let me feed you, let me run your bathwater whatever you desire, I'll aspire...Baby I'm yours I want to cater to you

"Cater 2 You"


Thoughts?

119 comments:

  1. With all due respect, I think you're overreacting. I mean, she obviously did the Pepsi thing for the money, who doesn't like money? But I feel like she genuinely does have a sense of purpose.

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  2. Im a massive beyonce fan so am mostly biased and will probably write more than I intentioned here, I do see your point but not sure if it really deserved such a blog post.....
    The trouble is its hard to do everything right when your being constantly analysed, and its certainly not unique to Beyonce, David Beckham has endorsed Pepsi and even burger king as well as health campaigns, you can't just single about Beyonce for this "hypocrisy".

    As for the songs, I think back in the days of "nasty girl" and "cater to you" her output was more externally controlled then now a days, and I think the songs are kind of contextual. Girl power is fine and doesn't necessarily mean not being nice to a guy or not being sexy, If I were a boy was written about the bad guys, but things like Dance for you (from 4) and Cater to you was written about the good guys, I don't really see what's wrong, anti-girl power, orhypocritical about that?

    The guns in video phone, yeah that was perhaps a bit iffy, but I think if you were to blame any media for glamorising guns surely James Bond shooting guns, driving fast and sleeping around is more of a bad example then beyonce and gaga dancing with them? (Not to mention some of the actors in that anti gun video who have been in such action films) I really dont think music videos, or movies or any video games deserves the complete or majority blame for any gun problems.

    Long story short I agree with arthur, perhaps a bit of an over reaction, a similar post could be made about any celebrity. Self promotion or not, helping some one or a cause is still helping.

    Sorry for the long post, I couldn't help myself :P

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  3. Whilst in the throws of writing this, in my eyes failed excuses, I hope in spite of appearances, you do realize James Bond is a fictional character and presented as such.Beyonce is not.

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  4. It's still "glorifying guns" on the big screen to the mass media. I'm well aware of this. But you could arguably say Beyonce, the character in her music videos, is the fictional character portrayed by Beyonce Knowles, as she plays different roles in every one?

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  5. Anyway, I'll wait for Diva to respond because your arguments are always tiresome and just the same "IM RIGHT YOURE WRONG ILL PROVIDE A LINK WITH NO BACKUP AND PRETEND I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU" and I just cbf rn.

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  6. I totally see your point here DD. This kind of hypocrisy clearly inspired by not very lofty desires ( unlike you, I do feel I have the right to judge the pursuit of fame and fortune as such ;-D )
    But then again....this basically is what most of charting pop music is all about...abandoning all in that pursuit

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  7. Lol your right dude. A wise move not to defend your nonsense as I indeed would be right and you are wrong.

    Link with no back up???? LOL My my, you HAVE been driven to desperation by constantly failing.

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  8. Me! I don't like money enough to do just anything for it.

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  9. DD Im surprised of this article. Beyonce is just a pretty girl that can is a great technical vocalist, and performer, that it. She does not really write her songs, her record label pays the real writers for Bey to have writing credit, and she not really the brightest light bulb on the Xmas tree. that said, your expenting to much from her. She not this creative force, or an activist, to take her random songs serious. I think she is a great performer, I look foward to hearing what she puts out next. But I know not to take her as a that serious, she is a product that has been created by a really good team. A team that knows how to make money, regardless of conflicting mesage4s

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  10. And btw, unlike you mr '' singer/songwriter'' and all your faves....I don't go around pretending. When I am right, I am right.
    For instaonce, much like you obviously are not aware of the difference between a fictional character and a singer ( and thereby underlining the effect of pop fakery on certain minds) you also are blissfully unaware while claiming to disagree with DD, you actually only backed up his point. All you did in that long post is say it is all true but also just fine in your eyes.

    Just not B's fault because even though she is such a powerful person, if the producer of her video wants gratuitous guns in it, all her status and power are moot. She simply HAS to comply. LOL

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  11. 50 million dollars to sponsor something! Come on now!

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  12. I really appreciate your well thought out and measured response! Most of what you said had crossed my mind when writing this, but I thought it would be interesting to read how others felt about 'brand beyonce.'what better way to do this than throw the cat amongst the pigeons! :p

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  13. Out of all the major popstars about, I'm most cynical about Beyonce. From fake songwriting credits, to the 'borrowing ' of other peoples visual ideas, to the controversial baby bump saga; this is one diva who seems to want to secure an iconic legacy no matter what.

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  14. Im looking forward to beyonces next offering. I am a big fan of her voice, music and respect her abilities as an entertainer. I just find her a very shady character.

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  15. i think we're in the minority....lol

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  16. Poor Bey, I think most people have it out for her. I mean, I guess with increased stardom comes increased scrutiny. I just side with her because I she is very talented, more so than most pop stars today.

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  17. I appreciate it. I was hoping the post might spark a wider debate on the hypocrisy of celebrity. Its not like i was foaming at the mouth when I wrote this, lol.I'm still a fan of her music and abilities as a performer.

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  18. I understand her fans and media do put her on this pedestal, and she really has know "real comfirmed" scandals unlike most of her peers. Is she a role model, IDK. If we where probably in her in her shoes we would donate that entire 50 mil to random charities, since she has a worth half a billion. But it her life, her greed. But, U get what you mean how you see an ulterior motive behind everything. At the end of the day she is a business, a band.

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  19. Nope, not if I wouldn't sponsor it for free aswell. Reality is that nobody gets to be in the position of being offered 50 million deals without having sold out many times for much less. So yeah...not even for 50 million.
    Pretty sure though in today's worldviews, you won't believe me. Those who know me in real life though do. They know my track record. :-)

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  20. LOL In this thread anyway. But in certain other genres of music you'll find many who refused to sell out any part of themselves for fame and fortune. And many fans who respect and like them for that.
    In fact many of those fans deeply dislike pop music because they feel it is so heavily populated whith such sell outs. I wonder if there is also a correlation between the pop fans here not taking an issue with this kind of thing? And which came first...the chicken or the egg so to speak. ;-)

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  21. I feel the same way. Very against the grain views to have in our society nowadays.

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  22. Sadly true, the concept of having principles is lost on many.

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  23. I never understood the need to rack up wealth in such abundance and let others suffer in poverty while others live in such disgusting excess. Maybe it's just because I hold Buddhist values but I don't get it. What does she really need 50 million more dollars for? Is she scared Blue won't be financially secure environment in the future? LOL. I agree she should donate the money. 50 Million dollars could greatly help and advance numerous charities.

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  24. I like the debate on something larger than the usual vocal classification debate. This got me thinking about the industry as whole and how things have changed so much since the early 2000's. It makes you think of why people say the music industry is a dying industry. I remember when artist would release just 3 song per album for commerical purposes. In some cases if an album was really succesfull or platinum, there might be 4 or 5 tracks released for commerical purposes. That left more time opportunity for other artist to get there music played, and there were more artist out with hits at the same time. Since 2005 or 2006 that all changed. There's less artist and only the same few "elite" artist such as Beyonce that release 8,9,10 tracks or more per an album, on top of releasing 2 or more at the same time, consuming playlist, and blackballing other artist new and old from radio play opportunity. I don't listen to Urban radio's often but I know that to certainly be a fact on urban radio stations. Trying to get every penny they can from the top sellers. Artist take cheap shots at each other to knock the other down. And my favorite hypocrisy that every female artist from Beyonce to Christina Aguilera and so many more love to claim that they are "empowering" women by being over the top sexual and "owning there sexuality". I hope my point make sense to everyone. Greed and hypocrisy are consistantly been thrown in our faces.

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  25. If only every one thought with values that buddhist follow. I too believe that is the only way to true happiness instead of chasing every buck. I dont like to be in everyone business or tell them what they should do with there money. But I do feel artist or anyone who wealthy and (in Beyonce case extremely wealthy), should donate, 50 million could change a country, house 200,000,000 homeless people or possibly create a cure. But I guess the idea of having 3 extra zero's is more ego flattering to some.

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  26. I really like your point re that supposed female emowerment/sexuality.
    Did you ever read Ariel Levy's book on the rise of what she called 'raunch culture'?
    You might like that one.
    Or for a condensed version, you can see her being interviewed on the Colbert Report. It is up on the show's site ( just google the two names and the word video)

    I don't listen to radiio myself I hear from american bluegrass fans the same thing has happened on Country statiions. Heavily favoriting the big chart sellers and ignoring the rest.
    Which makes me think the number of singles released is not so much the cause as it is the result of music Bizz execs and their sole interest...making as much money as quickly as possible.

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  27. "DD all I have to say IS that this business is dog eat dog environment. You gotta do what you gotta do to survive. What about the movies we see today-HUNGER GAMES??? Violence is everywhere and glorification of it just disappointing in the entertainment industry. But I truly believe that all of this starts in the home. It is every parents responsibility to bring their children in an environment where they feel safe and secure but most of all they grow up with MORALS"

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  28. I just read an article about youtube cracking down on artificial viewcount boosting. Besides several companies like Universal and Sony, Beyonce's was one of the channels of individual artists using this cheating. ( Michael Jackson's and Chris Brown's were two others mentioned by name)

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  29. Yep, the media has a lot to answer for, but especially parents who let their kids watch/listen/ play violent games. I'm not saying these things lead directly to violence, but those things combined with parenting that doesn't teach values/morals is a dangerous combination. (As you said)

    [Rant]

    But I don't appreciate that celeb video at all- not just beyonces role in it. Sure, send a personal letter to someone in power. But to make a video like this, it does annoy me, because it gives the impression that they think their voice is stronger than that of the average person. Or, even worse, that they can sway the opinions of people out there.. If that does work, then there are some weak minded individuals about.

    Besides, these are people who live in big houses, in safe places, and have bodyguards when they leave those places. Gun crime isn't something that usually touches there life- look at the victims of these awful shootings, they're always the common man. I would have found the video an infinite times more affective if it had just been random people on the street giving their opinions, or even celebs who have been directly affected by gun crime- like Jennifer Hudson. [/Rant]


    I'm really proud that the people on this site are so intelligent and reasoned with their response. Whether we agree or not, I like to read others opinions! So thank you (as always)!

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  31. I don't have it out for her. Its just an impression. I don't know her, so it's not something I hold as Gospel or something I think about often.

    But as this is a site about Divas and I had a thought on a Diva I decided it was worth expanding on and writing about it. Besides if you look at the comments, you'll see I'm in the minority, so "poor" me, darn tootin!

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  32. I would say even the NRA and individual members of the NRA saying ''enough already'' is more powerful than a bunch of celebrities. Though I would also say considering those weakminds (stans) existing, those celebrities do have a stake in guns not being readily available? I think John Lennon woud agree. ;-)

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  33. Well, already it seem to be 4-3. Our minority is growing. :-)

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  34. Short after reading the title I knew that this "rant" was going to be a completely piece of junk full of nonsense. Every little statement lacks reasoning and objectivity, thus it looks more like a hater bashing a celebrity than a smart opinion article.

    First of all you need to separe her stage persona from the real human being. She plays a part when she sings, records a video or performs on stage. The same way an actor plays a part in a movie. Second, the way yo link things (toy guns with real guns; a drink with obesity; independency songs with love songs (BTW, do you know that you can be independent and earn your own money AND at the same time take care of the person you love); and even the fact that she donated 'I Was Here' with an attempt to promote an album that had been released a year before by that time) proofs that you are not trying to be rational, but to attack her with any excuse by twisting things for your own convenience.

    I found your "rant" or whatever, really offensive and completly out of place in blog like this (it is suppose to be about the artistry and music, and not about your own appreciation about the artist as a person). I didn't expect to find something like this, and written with such poor arguments.

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  35. Uhm a rant by definition is not a calm rational piece.
    And seeing as this is DD's blog, I woud say it is up to him what it is ''supposed to be about''.
    I am sure it is all an act but there lies the rub with making what should be you into an act...you end up looking like a hypocrite when your ' persona' clashes with your person.

    As for love. Taking care of someone is not the same as being subservient.
    The link between child obesity and sodas like Coca Cola and Pepsi etc has been scientifically establised....extreme sugar intake makes you fat.

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  36. It's a blog about Divas. Sorry, it's MY blog about Divas. I post what I feel. I'm not a journalist and I don't get paid for what I do, neither do I have agendas or topics I won't touch. If you knew you weren't going to like what was presented, you should have skipped it.

    But like I said, I'm okay with other people having differing opinions, but you might want to check your post before you talk about objectivity. In fact mine is MORE objective because I did look at the other sides of my arguments- briefly, but still touched upon.

    You're basically giving beyonce a free card to do whatever she wants because she's "playing a part". But where is the line? Is that the "real" beyonce in the video asking for a change to gun laws, and the one in "Video Phone" is the act"? What about singing at the UN and caring about the cause? "Real" Beyonce? How bout her role in "Let's Move" and the pepsi deal? I take it the "lets move" was the real Beyonce and the Pepsi deal is the stage Beyonce?



    Maybe I just need to remember anything good she does is the REAL beyonce, and anything that can be criticised is the "stage" Beyonce? Right? Silly me....

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  37. LOL I think you hit on the crux with that conclusion line DD

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  38. This is what I was hoping for. I think I'll do an article on sexuality/empowerment at some point. It really is an interesting subject in the music industry.

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  39. NO way? " 852 million views to not even 3 million"! Do you a link or something. Very interesting!!

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  40. I'd love to read such an article. I think you should definitely check out Ariel before you write it though.
    I found a three part NPR interview with her on youtube.

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  41. I think who ever downvoted this comment must be simply downvoting any comment by me without even reading it.
    Whch is a shame because if that peson would actually read my comments, that indivdual would really know exactly what I think of such behavior :-)

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  42. The truth of the matter is that THERE IS NO insincerity at all. I understand that they are artists that play a role in their music, videos, movies, commercials, etc. I don't know Beyoncé or any of these artists at a personal level, so I think is completly wrong to criticize them on a personal level.
    I cannot take seriously DD's post or yours either because you have wrong arguments to begin with. It is beyond a matter of opinions. The blame of all the problems (obesity, violence, etc) does not lies in third parties, but within the household itself.

    If I see that my niece has weight issues I'm not going to blame Beyoncé and Pepsi for making the commerical, but me (or her parents) for let her buy those drinks and gain a lot of weight. If I see a teenager shooting a person, I'm not going to blame James Bond's films, but their parents and the political context in which he grew up that led him to commit such crimes.

    The lack of education, the poverty, the violent enviroment that came not from a screen but from his surroundings. Those are the things you have to blame for the problems, not Beyoncé or James Bond using guns for entertainment purposes. Neither I can blame Beyocé or, let say, Daniel Craig for what they do on screen or on the stage.

    When someone is educated enough,she/he knows how to behave in life with values and morality, and there is no movie, singer, videogame or anything that can change that. If I let the media and products educate and teach my own child, then I'm the one to blame if problems arise. It's always easier to put the blame in somebody else, instead of taking account of our own mistakes.

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  43. My point isn't to blame her for obesity or for gun crime, it's for her to be more consistent with her messages. Stop trying to be all things to all people and start being real. If you are all about the money, say it! Stop trying to pretend you are anything BUT a money making pop-star.

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  44. wow ! this is a hot little potato of a topic picked up on DD, in fairness all celebrities do sell themselves out and become hypocrites ....i mean look at gaga ,on day she's all "omg who cares if im fat" and the next she's all "oh i decided to release my own brand of vitamin water and get skinny again so it sells".......oh celebrity world...you continue to amuse and confound me

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  45. Totally! It just baffles me that people defend them for doing so.

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  46. Looking for that link for you. :-)

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  47. "I kill a block I murder avenues
    rape and pillage a village, women and children
    everybody wanna know what my Achilles’ heel is
    Love I don’t get enough of it
    all I get is these vampires and blood suckers
    all I see is these n***s I’ve made millionaires
    milling about, spilling there feelings in the air
    all I see is these fake f****s with no fangs
    tryna draw blood with my ice cold veins
    I smell a massacre
    seems to be the only way to back you b******s up"

    Jay Z- "Monster" and the sick video that went with it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgEjy_JWZys

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  48. As DD points out in his reply, you are missing the point. My reply went to your claim that his every statement was not objective and ''nonsense''.

    One needs to make a difference between a fact and someone's interpretation of fact within a wider subject.

    You also misunderstand my view on insincerity. I call a singer pretending to be a character in some piece of fiction rather than a musician interpreting his/her emotions through musiv to be insincere.

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  49. OK, let's focus on that. I don't understand why you think that one thing cannot coexist with another.

    She can be both a person who drinks Pepsi, and a person who does move her body to keep healthy as well. You know, if you drink a soda you are not going to become FAT over night, that takes years and year of poor diet and lack of exercise. If you consider BOTH things you can see that she says that YOU CAN DRINK a Pepsi... BUT you have to do exercise to keep healthy. What's wrong with that?

    Why if she does a music video in which she plays with FAKE guns (she is not killing anybody in the video, for God's sake) and then doing a video against REAL guns and violence, she is a shameless hypocrite... As I said before I'm not going to condem any media that uses violence, sex or drugs as way of entertainment because is up to each person decide whether or not they want to go out to kill somebody, sleep around or consum drugs... Watching a music video, movie; playing a videogame, etc. DOES NOT forces you to do such things. We have FREE WILL, therefore we can decide the things that we want or don't want to do.

    About the songs, it is the same. We are COMPLEX human beings and we go through a lot of feelings over time. One day you may feel that it is important to say out loud that you are independent and celebrate independency, but another day you might want to take care of the person you love, and make her/him feel confortable. Does cater to someone means that you are a servent or dependent? I DON'T UNDERSTAND that kind of nonsensical logic...

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  50. Yes 'cater to someone' is a subservient act. That is not the same as caring FOR someone.
    The lyrics quoted went to the former rather than te latter imo

    Glamorizing guns in videos where the lyrics don't even call for it is indeed contrary to the message of that other video.
    The fact that you don't understand that,doesn't make it untrue.
    That is much like what my statement on people valuing insincerity went to. Much as I don't understand it, they undeniably do. Undeniably because many have posted that very fact in black on white.

    Regarding ''free will'' you are being either incredibly naive and/or blissfully unaware of a lot of research and experiments done by psychologists.
    Why do you think advertisement is such a profitable business??? According to your reasoning it doesn't work at all.

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  51. All of which btw is not saying I agree with those who blame movies or some such for the acts of some individual nutter. But you are still missing the point that the criticism in the above rant by DD isn't directed at the possible result of Beyonces actions but to the nature of those actions themselves Therefor when you argue the likelihood factor of the possible results, you are arguing beside the point

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  52. Like i said in THE POST, no one is forcing people to drink pepsi, or to drink in anything BUT moderation- so once again, please stop implying I'm blaming her for obesity or gun crime. My point: If want to act like a role model- which she clearly does-then act like it consistently. Don't tell people to eat healthy and exercise and then parade around with a cart load of pepsi. Mixed messages much.

    Would you feel differently if she was being paid by a tobacco company? It's not like she's never smoked in a video [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNM5HW13_O8 ]. You think that's me stretching the argument? Well it can't be more than a decade away from the junk food industry (including pepsi) being forced-as the tobacco industry is- to put warnings on their products. Will you still feel the same way about this deal then?


    As for her songs, we've already established (somewhere in this thread) she doesn't really write her songs- despite the claims- so her "complex" persona is neither here no there.


    I'm not someone who is afraid of changing their mind. In fact I like to be challenged and educated. But nothing you're saying is changing my mind.

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  53. I'd also like to hear from you of one thing beyonce has done that HAS upset/shocked/ made you question her? Lets have some balance. I can say plenty of things I really like about Beyonce, but can you say anything negative about her?

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  54. It really is. I think that would be good, as we all have some thoughts and views on that subject

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  55. Yes it's not only big music channels as well, many popular youtube personalities were busted for using bot accounts to boost their subscriber and view counts.

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  56. That is a very sad reality,.

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  57. Beyonce was completely out of line for donating the profits of "I Was Here", while Dianne Warren is one of the highest paid songwriters in music and could live happily without the money from "I Was Here", It was not for Beyonce to say where the profits went to seeing as she did not write the song therefore has no rights to the song.

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  58. I personally only like pop mostly because I can't work out to slow songs ;D

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  59. It seems like Beyonce could stab someone and Nahu would go on about how the person ran into Beyonce's knife...


    This about sums up how Nahu views Beyonce (based off his post history on this site) https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkYVlMwOgUQPNNQxDE2n7WUQYpFtp3gtpM95uQ2UfgtQXWaSDH

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  60. LOL I feel your pain.
    But there ARE also sincere artists in pop music. I am only referring to those fake top acts. :-)

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  61. I won't even bother to answer your comment, you're clearly a hater who's taking advantage of this discussion to spread poison. Your "stab" example is really tasteless and completly pointless, pretty much the same way your comment is one of the worst I've read so far in this post.

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  62. She does write some songs, not all of them but several. You could listen to this song DD, maybe you'll understand how she feels with posts like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MmlD9Ajok4Q

    She will always have countless haters taking every single thing she does the wrong way to attack her... This wouldn't be a problem if they stick to their professional life, but they think they have the right to judge her as person. And that is wrong. Gaga has also done some questionable things, but I don't think it's fair to judge Stefani for such things. I don't personally know her... but I think is really wrong to make assumptions about a person's morality (saying that someone is a shameless hypocrite is a serious attack to that person's morality).



    If you don't want to understand, I don't know what else is left to say...

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  63. "I won't even bother to answer your comment" he replied.

    It also wasn't a question so it wasn't in need of an answer ;)

    I like Beyonce, she's hard working. However I cannot stand stans such as yourself.

    And thank you for your opinion on my post, I'll try to pretend that because you despise it I should feel bad because your opinion obviously transcends into hardcore facts. Please continue making subjective statements that you view as objective ones. Also continue to make guesses about someone you don't know at all. Would you like to guess my age next? My job? My height? You seem to think you know me definitively from one comment so go on :)

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  64. Do you remember writing this about Christina Aguilera "I cannot begin to understand how anyone can consider this performance as acceptable. It's an abobination, one of the worst in her whole career. God save her from herself!"

    Well have you heard her song "sing for me". what's the difference in critiquing Christina's voice? Why do Beyonce's words mean more to you than Christinas? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_hOl1tatNo]


    Seriously, my comment above about you giving me a negative about Beyonce was to determine if you were a "Stan", and it seems like you are, which makes me feel like i've wasted a whole heap of time trying to have a rational conversation with someone who isn't rational.

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  65. I love how this conversation displays how diverse can human thinking be and proves that when some humans get together to talk, they are unable to agree on one single opinion,one truth to the point they are all satisfied...

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  66. But the comment was about Christina's voice and performance, not about her as a person. It was a comment related to her career and the way she performs.

    I can say a lot of things that I don't like about Beyoncé, but never on a personal level. I don't like some of the singles choices (Diva instead of Hello, Run the World instead of End of Time), some tour's setlists (I Am Tour is such a mess), the way she performs some songs (she almost never sings the choruses of her uptempo songs, even when she is not dancing that much), most of her outfits since "I Am" era (the Crazy in Love outfit from I Am Tour is horrible), some of her music videos (Ego is cheap, Videophone is awful; I don't like that she 'borrows' some concepts/chorographies from other music videos either),I don't like the speeches in her shows because they sound way too rehearsed, she should be more spontaneous. There are many more things that I don't like, but as I said before and I repeated several times, I don't feel it's right to critize any artist on a personal level and make judgements and assumptions about the way they are.

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  67. But thats the point of "sing for me", her voice is pretty much her heart in song form. How can critiquing that be any more personal? What if she was to say " criticise me as much as you like, but don't talk about my voice", would you stop? You're applying your own standards to what you offer an opinion on, so why can't I? I'm sure they'd prefer if we didn't say anything negative about them full stop.

    Besides, I've just gone one step further with Beyonce. She always says she's an "entertainer", so I'm talking about her role in that sphere.

    Oh, and I'm glad to read that post. It makes me feel like i haven't been talking to a wall!

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  68. When she lend her support to a cause , was that as the fictional character ''Beyonce'' then or as her actual self?
    And do you not think when she does so, she wants people to judge her to be a good person?

    And do you seriously not realize when you state someone's ''stage speeches are too rehearsed and she should be more spontaneous'' you are judging her on as a person.

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  69. I feel like this article was rushed. Im gonna try and meet at the middle ground here. Yes Beyonce to me is a very confusing person. She will do things and then say things that shouldnt be said or that never happened but thats part of why people like her. As for her deal with Pepsi. There are studies showing that sodas and even "Diet" Sodas which are filled with synthetic sugar substitutes lead to obesity. However this is more so due to over indulgence than to the actual drink itself. As for the UN I felt like the song was a good choice but there was possibly another song in her arsenal she could have showcased to make it seem less like she was trying to promote herself. As for the glorifying of guns the concept in itself was a fun idea, however with the events happening recently we have begun looking at this in another light. We need to learn how to seperate artistic ideas, Promotion, and actual personal beliefs. However since none of us really know Bey we cant really say much without making baseless claims.

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  70. Opie, you are an expert in twisting comments. When I wrote: "she should be more spontaneous" I never said anything about her as a person, but the way she speaks on stage and adress her audience, the way she introduces her songs, etc.

    STOP TWISTING my comments to your own convinience. I'm being pretty clear about what I meant with "personal level".

    Of course than when she supports a cause is herself, the same can be say about any actor, singer or any person in the showbusiness that supports a cause. Why do you assume that she wants to be judge as a good person? That's pure expeculation. Have you talk to her? Did she tell you that she wanted to that for fame or to improve her image? I bet the answer is NO, then you are just GUESSING what she may want.

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  71. Though I take issue with several things here, I don't want to fight with you again but will point out Pepsi is not paying her all that money in the hopes her fans will have just the one Pepsi. Rather in the hopes of the opposite. Now I indeed I don't know her personally but I assume she has an average IQ at the very least. In which case she surely is aware of that fact as much as she must be aware of the power of advertising being the reason for the height of the amount they are offering?

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  72. I wasnt saying the company expect people to not over indulge but rather that is the only reason one would really develope issues from the beverage. Which may be what she thinks of the drink. I dont know. Im not beyonce haha.

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  73. LOL Excuse me for assuming she is a human being.
    As for me twisting your words...that is plain nonsense. The only one attempting to twist your words is you yourself.
    In fact, not just yours but mine as well. Where in the line ''wants people to judge her as a good person'' does it imply I claim anything about her doing it for 'fame or improving her image' ?
    I am speaking of the basic desire of every human being to be judged to be a good person when doing something considered a good deed.

    You really are a irrational stan.

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  74. Of course this is all just opinion. I hope nobody honestly thinks I'm claiming this as fact. It was a rant, so it was very much an "in the moment" piece- might explain the "rushed" nature of it.

    As for the guns in the video, (as we all know) there have been terrible shootings before this tragedy. I'm pretty sure the guns were included for shock value, and nothing more. What other purpose do they serve to the song? If Divas like Gaga or Rihanna had popped up in that video calling for Gun law changes, I would have called them out too.

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  75. B is a fraud that will jump on WHATEVER bandwagon there is to get her face associated with the "in" thing. Heres Destinys Child performing at the BUSH'S Inauguration in 01, and NOW look at her sucking up to the Obamas! As this blogger said "NO CONVICTION" all "Legacy".


    When Gaga came- with her wacky ass sh*t- Besus (as her fans sickeningly call her) invented a Trashy character to let herself be a tramp and dress in a way that her fans would think "unchristian" by saying it was a different character! GURL! Finally she tried it by going for Adele success with 4- going AC and naming it after a number! FLOP.


    BANDWAGON, THIEVING, FAKE. Pretty face, good voice, everything else SMOKE AND MIRRORS!

    [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1438397/pop-country-stars-welcome-bush-white-house.jhtml] This blogger shoulda ta

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  76. Yes I understood what you were saying. I simply explained why in my eyes what you were saying doesn't work as an excuse in the matter of the perceived hypocrisy. That's all. :-)

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  77. i am a huge queen bey fan but i am well aware that many of her actions contradict the image she sometimes tries to portray - however i think this can be said with all pop stars - they say and do a lot of things and its easy to get lost in the game and do one thing that goes against another thing that you said especially being under the microscope all the time

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  78. I know I didn't. I just took it as your personal conclusion of a combination of a number of actions by Beyonce. And I would come to a similar conclusion.
    Indeed, I realize I do not know the woman personally.
    Fully possible if I did I would interpret things differently and come to a different conclusion.
    But not based on beside the point and generally poor and irrational arguments by stans.

    And frankly, though the subject makes for an entertaining conversation, when push comes too shuff, I don't really give a hoot about Beyonce as an artist or person.
    Unlike these stans, I have no emotional investment in Beyonce of any kind. :-)

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  79. I don't think anybody is claiming she is the only one. But the fact that others do the same, does not pertain to her ''guilt''

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  80. Actors playing in a movie are clearly not reprenting themselves.And nobody anywhere near sane thinks otherwise.
    Pop stars ARE pretending to represent themselves. That is why they like to claim they are the writers of the songs they sing. They know the audience responds better if they can believe that singer is singing about herself , her own life.

    And seriously....you cannot be for real, trying to claim the majority of people don't know about the incredibly high sugar content of all regular sodas and the fact that high sugar intake makes you fat.

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  81. First off I would like to correct myself on somethings. You are right that people would have to be pretty dense to not see the correlation that soft drinks like pepsi has with obesity. I did not see that about the ban, so I will look that up later (not to refute you or anything).
    However your first part makes no sense to me. I don't know what that is in reference to.

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  82. It is in reference to you comparing actors to Beyonce. Which btw even if they could be compared is still a moot point as the fact that others maybe hypocrites does not pertain to whether Beyonce is or not.

    I can readily understand you not taking my word for that ban thing as it surely must sound like a joke story to any rational person. Feel free too google it. I am not worried about being refuted...the story is sadly true. New York is becoming so small minded it lost it's right to be ''named twice'' it seems. ;-)

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  83. Alright then. Oh I am not saying you are wrong, I just didn't know, or not remember if I had seen something about it.

    And about the actor thing, what I forgot to add in the original comment was about the video for videophone. Most if not all videos are not a representation of the singer, instead just a visual for the video. It does the same thing as a movie, or a tv show.

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  84. And the video is a representation of the song which I understand often is supposedly written by Beyonce herself. Making it a supposed representation of some emotion or views springing from her mind/person. Again...unlike most acting roles where neither words nor character sprang from the actor.

    Anyway, like I said, the argument is moot. The rant is titled ''Beyonce is shameless hypocrite?"
    Not "Beyonce is the only hypocrite in entertainment?"
    Had that been the proposition, I'd be arguing against the article. In fact, unlike the writer, I feel there are way bigger hypocrites around. :-)

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  85. See the thing is we don't know where Beyonce was in that mindset when she and the director were when they thought of this video concept. Honestly I don't even know where the video is going for the most part. There looks to be a plot, but then at the end it never seems to come together just right. But to say that oh because she had a gun in her video and now a few years later she is participating in a PSA to for better gun control laws makes her a hypocrite is a major stretch.
    I did not intend for it to come off as trying to include others to lessen some blow for Beyonce, it just came up (as awkwardly as that sounds). But like you said, their actions does not pertain to Beyonce.
    I understand though why people would feel that Beyonce is one, and I do believe that myself Bey is one (see Nasty Girl, and then look at the rest of the Destiny's Child catalog at that time...but once again I hope they have grown from that). However these examples used here are looking a little too deep into things. Not saying that we should not analyze her actions (I'm a pop culture junkie as well as a comm major so this is kind of my hobby). The pepsi one I can see as legit, however I am not going to look down on (not saying anyone else has) because she did also participated in Let's Move campaign, but that's about it.
    But this was also so one's opinion so I can't just say they are wrong.

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  86. Well.....For fifty million dollars...I'll lay down with the dogs and wake up with fleas if you get my jives...lol

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  87. The jive being you are up for sale. Best of luck. Hope you will fetch a good price. :-)

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  88. I start at 49,999,999$ BTW....lol

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  89. Except he wasn't simply saying she had a gun in a video. He was saying she had a gun in a video for a song that made no mention of guns or violence. Making it as clear a case of gratuitous use of guns as can be and therefor equally clearly it has no other use or purpose than glamorizing guns. And THAT is what makes her now apearing in that guncontrol video a hypocritical act.

    Did you even read the actual article? Because the whole argument was that participating in a campaign aimed at a healthy life style and then signing a deal with pepsi is yet another act of hypocrisy. Or is this again a case of it not coming out alright?
    Because it reads as if you think he was just critisizing her signing that pepsi deal whn his very point was tat he off set that to participatinh in that health campaign.
    But maybe you simply meant to convey that you find that latter makes the former okay rather than an act of hypocrisy?
    Something obviously a matter of interpretation.

    No offense intended but if that "comm" stands for communication I hope that is either not in English or you just started this study because you keep posting stuff you later say " didn't come out right". ;-)

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  90. LOL well at least you aren't selling yourself cheap. But I fear you will remain on the shelf starting at that price. Unless you have some minor talent and an eye for edgy fashion, a good dance instructor and a " message'' that is. In which case I will rate your chances for a sale a lot higher. :-)

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  91. It's a pressed Beyawnce stan. :p

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  92. Hahaha Love this comment. I feel the same way.

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  93. This post is just one big Lolocaust. I love how Beyonce stans manage to make their way to any blogger that dares say anything bad about the "flawless" queen B. I personally find her sister Solange more talented and authentic, since she actually writes her own songs and all. I recommend you check out her new Ep True if you haven't yet, It's pretty good.

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  94. Also, here's a little something to get you Bey stans riled up. ; ) http://randomjpop.blogspot.com/2011/09/beyonce-songwriting-scams-continue-on-4.html

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  95. Seeing as some of the Bey stans are also Gaga stans I argued in the past...I suspect it is one of them. ;-)

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  96. LOL the stans responding were particulary entertaining. Only in 2012 pop music will a singer's phrasing be considered "song writing".
    Let's start a legal case for the back pay for writingcredits in name of every singer who ever recorded!
    We can bankrupt every damn record label. ;-D

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  97. some people are pressed that beyonce is, at the end of the day, a hypocrite. you can slice it any way you want, but, she doesn't practice what she preaches and frequently uses underhanded tactics to submit herself as a legacy and a performer that cares.


    declaring a war from childhood obesity only to sponsor a soft drink?
    stating she'll donate a song that she wouldn't have collected royalties from to save her flop album?


    in all fairness, i don't think it's her fault. she was brought up by her dad who was hell bent on making her famous, and, there's probably some pressure on her to keep topping herself as a famous celebrity with a legendary legacy.

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  98. I kinda agree, only with the pepsi thing. Michelle Obama must be shaking her head and feeling so bad. But honestly the rest seems a bit far fetched. And again Beyonce is a puppet she does what she is told to do and sings what she is given. She is just as bad as Britney in terms of having no will power or control over her product. Smh lol

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  99. I admire and respect beyonce as an entertainer. But she's really confusing and really shady

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  100. Bringing truth to you pressed hos once more:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dxoUYoBUyMA#!

    Fakes her whole preggnancy.

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  101. Whoah dude, are you making a play for my HaughtyArrogance crown? :-b

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  102. Get in my way and I'll take you down too, gurl! But for now, we be a'ight!

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  103. Oh you talk big but you are just a pretender to my crown at this point. You don't even have folks praying for you yet. So yeah, for now we ''be a'ight''.

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  104. There reactions should be expected when they view Beyonce like this...https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQkYVlMwOgUQPNNQxDE2n7WUQYpFtp3gtpM95uQ2UfgtQXWaSDH

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  105. Well I'm pitching a tent and staying around fo a lil while! See if I can't bring some TRUTH to y'all!

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  106. Well, I wish you all the best with that effort! :-)
    It's a good thing though that I already know the truth because frankly, my principle is to not spent time reading what people are seemingly too lazy to write really. ;-)

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  107. Please the woman does not have an original bone in her body, dont get me wrong I love Bey, but cmon, she only does things that make her popular, she never wants to go outside the norm, she just follows what is socially acceptable. With that being said anyone excited for the superbowl?

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  108. Pffft. You, unlike Opie, seem blinded by what I call "the stan disease".

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  109. I Love solange!!!! The new Ep is awesome

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  110. i... love... you... you said basically anything i wanted to say. you deserve an award for this answer, seriously. i feel like marrying you...

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  111. she is the definition of HYPOCRISY #FACT... she said in her HBO documentary that she is not one of those artists who puts out single after single from her album in order to stay relevant when in reality, she released 7 singles off 'i am... sasha fierce'. and even in '4', she released like 6 SINGLES just to promote her album (RTW/BTINH/countdown/LOT/1+1/dance for you) FAKE ASS HYPOCRITE!

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  112. Look who is out stealing other peoples ideas again

    http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/the-juice/1560092/op-ed-when-beyonces-inspiration-turns-into-imitation

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  113. The world is wising up to her ways.

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  114. omg..the look on the pic when shes drinking pepsi..sme women are real evil people and look at her eyes..omg..

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