Thanks to a link provided over at Mariahjournal I found out about this performance of All I Want For Christmas, filmed at the National Tree Lighting in Washington, DC. And just like Mariah Carey's last showing at the Rockefeller Center [here], the Diva delivered again on the night with an almost perfect rendition of the holiday classic.
Witnessing two solid performances in a row was almost enough to make me think a Christmas miracle had occurred, and that the vocalist's weathered pipes had been restored! Watch for yourself [here]- Mariah comes on at about the 57 minute mark to sing. Anyone wanting to not deal with the reality of the situation, please stop reading at this point.
Deciding I needed to share this great rendition with you guys, I headed over to Youtube to find an embeddable version- ain't nobody got time for following links, right?- to end the (what was going to be a fawning) post. Unsurprisingly, I managed to find one pretty quickly. Unexpectedly, though, was how different (bad) the vocal on the Youtube video was when compared to the one found at Thenationaltree.org.
It seems to be another case of team Mariah substituting the vocal on the night for another that would give the illusion of perfection. A silly move, I'd argue, which only further damages her legacy as a vocalist- even more so than the odd bad performance would.
In retrospect, I don't feel so guilty now for focusing most of my attention on the bumbling saxophonist behind Mariah while watching the "dubbed" version. It turned out to be a much better use of my time.
Thoughts?
The videos been removed. I watched the Live Feed of the Performance and it was AWFUL. There was no hiding the vocal fatigue and just awful sound. She was quite out of breath and the Head run at the end failed miserably. Her voice cracked in a simple Head Note. TWICE. And she tried making up for it in at the end- resulting in a misplaced head run that was quite thin.
ReplyDeleteOh my I feel so bad for Mariah for this video. I think she should pre-record this before going live if she knows she can't sing it well.
ReplyDeletePoor Mariah :(. I want her to be good. Is she having voice lessons?
ReplyDeleteBoth videos are working for me :S. I think I would have been less sad if I had only seen the real rendition. Going from the high of the dubbed version to the reality was quite a tumble.
ReplyDeleteIt makes me wonder if her Rockefeller performance was dubbed too...
ReplyDelete"I want her to be good", I feel your pain. https://24.media.tumblr.com/129e99f3f2e662de3bbec9bb20811766/tumblr_mx7oipNROl1rk3lovo1_500.gif
ReplyDeleteyes, both are working for me too. That is..they play. ;-)
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ReplyDeleteOh. Its only been blocked in the US then by Sony due to copyright. lol.
ReplyDeleteSony are amongst the biggest wankers Brian, when it comes to blocking etc
ReplyDeleteI'm still waiting for an album of unreleased 90's mariah to come out.
ReplyDeleteI think we might be freaking out people. she sounded pretty good a rockafeller and then the impromptu of art of letting go. Everyone has a bad day. It seems to me every other performance recently has been good.
ReplyDeleteL.M.F.A.O
ReplyDeleteThese 'Gif's' have me ROLLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The fact is...
ReplyDeleteMariah Carey has never been a 'live singer/vocalist', per say, nor do I think she ever will be. It has always been 'Hit or Miss' with her when performing in live settings and she has always been known to "dub" her live performances. Personally speaking, as she has stated herself and I agree with her, she has always been a "studio artist" albeit an extremely gifted one.
I will just have to, somehow, accept that her instrument is now weak, frail and damaged (albeit not as bad as Christina's or my beloved Whitney in her last years) and I think she knows this herself. I don't know what to say anymore at this point. She either gets 'vocal lessons/rehabilitation' or retires. : - (
Is this a good performance for you? She can't even hit the note at 3:31 and her voice cracked at the end. It seems that the writer of this cheap blog is lunatic. Give this song to Gaga and she can hit it effortlessly. Admit it gerls! Mariah is done. She was good in the 90s but her voice is gone. KthanksBye!
ReplyDeleteThis is sad. Whitney, Mariah and Christina are the best vocalists but they all lost their voices because of bad technique, pride and lack of care.
ReplyDeleteIf Mariah hits as low as Whitney did in her decline I will probably just give up. I mean Whitney was just...words cant describe the state of her voice in those last few performances.
ReplyDeleteMariah and Whitney never had "bad" technique. Just bad habits. Unless you want to argue the whole Whisper singing thing with Mariah.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlDByaubDRU
ReplyDeleteMariah is done. Lady Gaga is here with her vocal that is unmatched by any of the artists of today. She is the one and only vocal queen of today.
'Brian'... I completely agree.
ReplyDeleteTo this very day, I still shed a tear at what Whitney Houston's voice became and especially when I listen to this performance. If Mariah's voice deteriorates into this, (which I'm sure may happen if she continues) I will just give up to.
I will always cherish her voice but: : - (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxShAx0f8Nw
But... Is "Art-FLOP" still on the charts? : - (
ReplyDeleteMultiple seats awaits you... _/ _/ _/ _/ _/
Oh your DD's personal hater who posted his irrational emotions earlier.
ReplyDeleteWell, now we know what your beef is.
Ah well, merry christmas dude..may love find it's way in your heart or some sanity your mind. :-)
Funnily enough, that's the track that demonstrated for me that Gaga is a, as we say here, 12 in a dozen singer who would never have caught anybody's attention if it wasn't for her antics. A completely generic interpretation, put completely in her proper light by Amy's brilliance on the same album.
ReplyDeleteWait... @Lady Gaga >> Flopriah, are you seriously calling Mariah a "Flop"?
ReplyDeleteWhere is "Art-FLOP" on the charts though?
Isn't "Lady Gaga" the one STRUGGLING for commercial relevancy only five years into her career yet Mariah still continues to be significant and hold weaves captive - 24 years into hers?
#OOPS. : - (
that didn't even make sense ...
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Not to you perhaps. I'll try to put it more simply..Gaga is a mediocre singer, no better than a great many other singers.
ReplyDeleteShe therefor would not have jumped out from amongst the many average singers in the world who are trying to make it unless she came up with silly antics.
Her duet with Tony underlines her average quality as a singer. Amy's duet on the same album on the other hand underlined how special she was.
And by comparison Amy's track on said same album therefor underlined even more how generic and average Gaga as just a singer is.
Seeing as I am not the one selling my naked body for money and attention, I am singularly unimpressed by a gif of one who does used to try and call me a "hoe".
ReplyDeleteThat being your response to my opinion however, is completely predictable from a Gaga fan.
They have that reputation of being amongst some of the most obnoxious of stans.
I read that coment in a really uncareful manner and I thought you were that obnoxious Gaga stan so I wanted to give him/her a wipe with a (I have to admit extremely cheap) gif. By the second time I read your comment I understood your point.
ReplyDeleteSorry.
ps I am unimpressed with any attempt to call me a hoe via the use of a gif of a woman who sells her naked body for money and attention and to sell tunes of self pitying laments on getting what she wanted.
ReplyDeleteIn that case I apologize for my responses.
ReplyDeletePerhaps this was a result of yesterday's fuck up by Disqus when one of that stan's comments initially got posted under my tagname?
Probably because I could swear I saw that username above your comment. Although I was quite confused by that stans suddenly literate formulation...
ReplyDeleteAnd why would you apologize for your response? I can't see anything insulting towards me and I actually agree with everything you wrote. I wish some people would be that diplomatic
ReplyDeleteLOL Thanks. You were correct. Coleman saw it too but it got changed to "guest" just a bit later.
ReplyDeleteI don't think anybody here has ever called me diplomatic before. But I am glad that's how it came across. :-)
Non of Christina performances in her prime live or recorded are not in the same league as Mariah or Whitney's in there prime. Im not throwing shade or have any dislike for her but its the truth. Christina has a nice but she has never had the power of control or belts that these Whitney or Mariah had.
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ReplyDeleteAgreed. they were in a league Christina has never been in. I thinks vocalist like Whitney and Mariah should have maintained a vocal coach. I think artist like them get to a point where they feel they longer need a vocal coach anymore.
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ReplyDeleteLOL.
ReplyDeleteI don't quite understand why my comments are, all of a sudden, being posted under "Guest". : - /
'Disqus' is such a MESS at times. : - D
I laughed a lot
ReplyDeleteThis 'Gif' is ICONIC.
ReplyDeleteI cannot and will not.
LMFAO.
Indeed..a mess! :-)
ReplyDeleteSometimes comments also disappear.
What an odd tangent you've taken this on....
ReplyDeleteShe should get pregnant again then she'll stop drinking
ReplyDeleteShe has performed Poker Face on Jingle Bell Ball yesterday with this arrangement, sounded like in 2009 :-)
ReplyDeleteShe admitted that it was bad after she finished singing then wished if she could do it one more time but better of course. The weird thing is that although the performance was bad, the audience was like:"sing another song" .... she really needs to take vocal lessons, exercise and quit drinking every now and then. Its drying her vocal cordes in addition to her "whispering". Her voice needs rehabilitation asap....
ReplyDeleteI almost exited out of the live stream when I was watching this. I always get nervous when I'm going to watch her perform. Get some rest and see a vocal coach Mariah. Please.
ReplyDeleteWell she was a live singer/vocalist... But thanks to her nodes she can't really do much to hide that forcing her to lip and dub. People still wanna see Mariah Carey "THE MARIAH" But i don't think people wanna hear her sound ugly. And with her name and still young, Retirement would just mean missing millions of dollars of work related opportunity. Her name alone is worth hundreds of millions! It's hard to say cause it's a double edge sword. I still want to hear her music, But I do know live performances may be challenging now, But I'm okay with that.
ReplyDeleteBut how do we know THEY weren't dubbed! I don't know what to believe any more! http://cdn.arwrath.com/1/140429.gif
ReplyDelete1. Well, when I said she should go into 'retirement', I was being ironic and speaking hypothetically. Of course she won't quit a job that she has been assigned to for the past two-and-a-half decades but it wouldn't be a bad option if she were to. Mariah has a net-worth of, at least, "$300+ Million" and she still makes millions every year, in royalties, off of her "All I Want For Christmas Is You" song - that, alone, could and would have her and her children set for the rest of her life to come. LOL.
ReplyDelete2. I still have never thought of Mariah to be much of a "live vocalist", per say, even when in her prime. She has given gracious 'live performances' throughout her career but she was never, truly, consistent with them, unlike others. However, I do take into account that Mariah has battled with anxiety/stage fright her entire career, akin to that of Barbra Streisand, has battled with 'nodules' and is 'human' after all.
: - )
Completely off topic, but who is the sex god in this gif? I want to...ermm...comfort him :)
ReplyDeleteSTFU B*TCH...
ReplyDeleteCAN YOU SING???????
I THOUGHT NOT. DUMBA*S.
Actually Yeah. I can.
ReplyDeleteActually dear, Brian can sing. And imo pretty good too. I'd rather listen to Brian than today's Mariah Carey for sure.
ReplyDeleteCan you sing?
Oh my...Im blushing. :3
ReplyDeleteDisqus really IS fucked up because now two comments I tried to post 3 hours ago suddenly appeared. Those are the comments btw I was thinking of when I apologised.
ReplyDeleteI totally meant that Brian. :-)
ReplyDeleteLOL Well now you will have to prove that because I am not going to just take your word for it.
ReplyDeleteLink please!
Im definitely one to think it was just a bad night, and maybe under bad circumstance. But still...It happened. And that kind of worries me that it had to happen.
ReplyDelete600 million still sounds better than 300 million.. LMAO.
ReplyDeleteI know i just hate the thought of her not making music anymore.. ugh! She is my favorite pop singer.
Oh DAMN. She sounded out of breath like CRAZY. I've never heard Mariah sing out of tune like this before, but...dAMN.
ReplyDeleteOn the plus side, she sounded like she was actually able to hit the belted notes on this performance.
But I'm not gonna lie, this was awful. Simply awful.
She IS good. Almost every performance this year has been done live, or is a composite of live takes. She's simply not as good as she was.
ReplyDeleteThank you! (:
ReplyDeleteLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
ReplyDeleteIt's Logan Lerman :)
ReplyDeleteYes I was being a bit dramatic :P. The rockerfeller performances were a lot better, just like some recent performances.
ReplyDeleteIT'S ABOUT TIME!!!! A little inaccurate here or there, however, most of it was well written. The analysis as a whole was actually really good. Thank you SO MUCH for finally making a profile on her.
ReplyDeleteWhen did the admin say he thought this was a good performance? He found the unedited one and was really disappointed.
ReplyDeleteWhy are you bringing an artist who has literally nothing to do with this article into the conversation?
ReplyDeleteChaka will forever be known as the "QUEEN OF FUNK, SOUL & ROCK". : - D
ReplyDeleteOMFG.......YAAAAAAASSSSSSS. DRAG THAT B*TCH!!!
ReplyDeleteLooooooooooooool.
I think you really need to learn the meaning of stan before you call me a stan.
ReplyDeleteOh and hypocrite while you are at it. Did you seriously just post a comment for people to stop attacking each other in the very thread you once again pick a comment of mine to reply to with a little personal dig and a complete lack of understanding??? To the effect of calling me a hypocrite? That's rich dude.
Once again you fail to get the point of my comment though.
Miley Cyrus did not need to get into antics to get attention. She already was very famous before she got into the antics.
It was the other way round for Miley.
So no, it's not "a tad hypocrite".
Besides which, though I call nonsense on a lot of the "shock" in response to Miley's antics, I never claimed they weren't silly antics. Certainly never went around calling them "performance art".
Whether Miley's current success was "brought about by" said antics...well, I happen to think it was brought about by her actually being a good singer delivering a good album. But hey, you are welcome to disagree on that.
Just don't go change history around. With gaga it was Unknown-antics-success.
With Miley it was Success-antics-success
And what does this article have to do with Christina?
ReplyDeleteReally hilarious how you are accusing me of hypocrisy in a thread where you flip flop to this extent between criticizing and doing what you criticize.
I love this
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjLuAS8HYm8
Regarding "one and only vocal queen of today"..think again babe...
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_7GPHJBhH8
G3 is not middle voice, it is low register.
ReplyDeleteFor a woman; low is C3 (or lower) to C4, middle-low C4-G4, middle F4-F5, upper middle C5-F#5 or G5, and upper register is G5-C6. And the "sopracuto" (higher than high) would be anything above C6, while "altisimo" (extremely high) anything above F6.
Why put Christina's gif though? Christina's voice is ruined far worst than Mariah. Mariah at least can produce some upper-middle belting without sounding like a dying cow the way Christina does.
ReplyDeleteI take it you missed the gif at the bottom of the article.
ReplyDeleteExactly what about that performance would win this artist the title of "vocal queen"? She sings no better than Adele. Beyonce, Monica Naranjo, Vanessa Amorosi, SoHyang, Coral Segovia, Lara Fabian, Nikka Costa, Giorgia, etc could easily annihilate her.
ReplyDeleteAnd you think the Adele sound-a-like you posted is a great singer? LMAO.
ReplyDeleteAt least some people would want her body though, does anybody want yours? God, you old lesbians are so sad.
ReplyDeleteOkay, after reacting as expected, I have a few things to say about this.
ReplyDeleteThere are reasons she sounded this bad.
1. The air was cold. You can clearly see her breath coming out in fog several times during this performance, Her voice is...ridiculously fragile. Even a tiny bit of cold and dry air will wreck hell on it. So there's that.
2. She was out of breath. Either from pre-performance sex, having to run from place to place, whatever - she sounded ridiculously out of breath the whole song through. Because otherwise, if you notice not pitch, but tonal quality, her voice sounds much smoother and fuller than it did at Rockefeller, at least during the first few minutes. Then, the cold air hit, and she cracked her head voice notes.
3. She didn't seem to hear herself. Mariah's a perfectionist, and even she's said that she fucking HATES hitting the wrong note. She's out of time with the song in several sections, and can't seem to hear what she's singing terribly well.
Obviously, this performance was God-awful, but I at least tried to find a reason behind it, as her voice sounded like it was in pretty good shape, and it doesn't make sense that she would sound this bad.
I heard that she was actually late (as you can see at the start where she was running into the stage). I guess she didnt have time for rehearsal or her vocal warm up.
ReplyDeleteYes. I thought as much. I would have definitely labelled her a 'Dramatic'- singer also but her extensive upper register is what set me back a little. I still am not so sure though, but...
ReplyDeleteThanks Bro. ; - )
The simple fact of the matter is that, for mezzos and contraltos there is no spinto. The reason why is because there are no voice types for mezzos that have metallic upper ends and creamy lower ends. The lower dramatics get, the more metallic their voice gets. That is why they don't have a spinto classification for mezzos and contraltos. There simply is no possible way for a mezzo to sound lyric in the lower end and dramatic in the upper. They either are lyric or dramatic.
ReplyDeleteHon, it's going to be hard to keep up your pretense I am the one obsessed with you if you keep posting random reactions like that. :-)
ReplyDeleteAlso I am wondering how many times it takes before you realize such comments will simply not draw me into the silly defense they are intended to solicit? You seem to be a bit of a slow learner.
Well, yes I do. :-)
ReplyDeleteAt least she isn't as flat as that cover of People by a rank amateur I heard the other day.
And I understand that cover was heavily worked on in a top studio as well. It was sad , just sad.
I won't post a link to that one though because I wouldn't want to be responsible for any Streisand fan being subjected to that ....effort.
She is technically good AND you believe her. But I wouldn't expect you to get that. You just stick to your cold show off belters dude.. This kind of singing is beyond your comprehension. :-)
ReplyDeleteps Really really going to be hard to keep up that pretense I am supposed to be obsessed with you.
ReplyDeleteMr "expert" who speaks of singers "annihilating".
They are singers ya poor sod. Not assassins. They are not in the business of "annihilation".
I take it you just cannot pass any comment of mine by without having to post some kind of slight?
ReplyDeleteI take it you also missed the other remarks posted by Jeremiah. That is however understandable...what with your obsession.
Oh you are not the only one trying to find reasons for it Ethan.
ReplyDelete!) if her voice is as delicate as all that, perhaps she shouldn't accept open air gigs in Washington DC in December?
2) Perhaps she should have that sex or leave for her place a little earlier?
3) Maybe she should make sure she can hear herself?
I fail to see how a woman who takes gigs her voice is too "delicate" for, can't be bothered to be properly prepared and on time and when she can't hear herself can't deal with that problem (like stopping and asking for the sound to be fixed) deserves to be called a "perfectionist"?
You should hear her talk afterwards when she thinks she has a bad performance...or how about her bitching about the wrong mix of 'The Art of Letting Go' getting released? She's a perfectionist to the core - I doubt that she often has as much control over a situation as she might like because not everyone scurries around to appease her, and she's not nearly as demanding as she could be. I would call her the 'kind' perfectionist - she strives for a perfect sound (as evidenced by the dubbing), but she won't let it kill her - visibly. The other type (what I call Barbra Streisand) where everything MUST BE PERFECT OR THE WORLD WILL BURN IN FLAMES is the type most people probably refer to.
ReplyDeleteSaying that there can't be a spinto mezzo is like saying that there can't be the colour pink - white or red, choose one or the other.
ReplyDeleteThe size of a person's voice is determined by the thickness of their vocal cords, yes? Given that, wouldn't you think it a bit odd that sopranos, tenors, baritones, and basses have a large selection of colours, definitions, and varying sizes of the voice to pick from, while mezzos and contraltos are left with one choice or the other?
It's simply idiotic to suggest that there can only be two voice sizes for a given range - I'm not calling you an idiot, it's simply the concept that is such. People's vocal cords come in a variety of sizes and lengths, and for that reason, yes, there can damn well be a spinto mezzo-soprano, or a spinto contralto, because for that vocal category, all you need is a singer who has a sound output somewhere between a dramatic and a lyric.
Does Chaka lean towards, dramatic? In the high range, yes, in the low range, no. Her voice isn't fully dramatic, because someone like Anastacia would blast her off the stage - low and high. Conversely, Chaka could, with some push (see that word? In Italian: spinto) overpower any lyric mezzo.
A spinto voice may often have a metallic quality to the high range, but it isn't an absolute rule; Whitney Houston's upper range had an impressive sound output, but the voice stayed warm all the way to the top, and she is regarded as a spinto soprano. Is Chaka's voice warm at the top? Not remotely. But then, there are also lyric voices with sharp, biting timbres to the tops of their belted ranges (Celine Dion's belts above F5 come to mind).
The point is, trying to define voices into absolute moulds is stupid, and for that reason, creating new voice types in order to accommodate everyone is the far better move, at least for me, than saying "oh, well, this isn't in the standard set of definitions, and therefore doesn't exist".
i think it was a really bad day for her. she wasn't ready i heard she was rushed to the stage and something more (im not so sure) and the fact that it was beyond cold there and she was wearing something little
ReplyDeleteFINALLY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR AGES FOR THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteCan we have Shania Twain next?
Talk, as they say, is cheap. ;-)
ReplyDeletePersonally I think whether someone is a perfectionist is shown in her actions.
I stand by my argument that the actions you described are not those of a perfectionist.
I think Mariah Carey certainly has enough status to demand sound to be fixed when it's not working.
And that I am sure that be done in a nice way.
I'd also say that her strive for what she considers perfect sound by all accounts "killed" her. Or her voice anyway.
I also think most people will define a perfectionist as someone who will work tirelessly and will also take control of every aspect they can control in order to achieve the best result.
I don't think the Rockefeller center performances were dubbed, they were both live but the whistles were lipped dunno why. In this performance her voice was tired even when speaking and the fact that she was running to the stage made her lose her breath which lead to this bad performance.
ReplyDeleteThere can be intermediate voices, but they are not so recognized in the operatic fach system.
ReplyDeleteThe day I become obsessed with old, unemployed lesbians would be the day the earth stops spinning.
ReplyDeleteTechnically good compared to what? to Mariah in her prime? Not even close. Compared to Lady Gaga? Gaga has shown better vocals than those displayed in that video. That woman you posted sang similarly to Adele or Duffy. And between Adele/Duffy and those other vocalists I mentioned, there's a rather large gap when it comes to technical ability.
ReplyDeleteLook at how upset you get though :) why? because you post an ok singer and tried to pass her off as the next great thing, and I call you out on the fact she isn't better than Adele/Duffy? LMAO.
ReplyDeleteGo find yourself a job or something to do.
LMAO, you are so very sad pathetic :) If you refer to something I sang into a tiny voice recorder - and not at a recording studio - you are not only sad and pathetic, but also have a tin ear. If you cannot distinguish between a low quality recorder with cheap microphones and an enormous noise floor v/s a studio recording that is pristine and crystal clear...it is you who is the amateur.
ReplyDeleteAnd thanks for stalking my channel :*
Yes, I thought I detected a jolt a while back.
ReplyDeleteLOL by the standards of the trade dear.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that you just judged Anouk to be on the level of Adele is frankly hilarious.
"look how upset you get" ????
ReplyDeleteSweetie, believe me, that is not upset. You want to read an upset response? Read over your own comments. The majority of them are text book examples of over the top aggressive responses.
Sorry dude, I didn't bother with the stalking. I heard two videos and then I dismissed you as being boring and soulless and occasionally quite flat.
ReplyDeleteEven if I only compare you to people frequenting this blog you aren't that great.
And I am pretty sure none of those had studios at their disposal for the recordings I heard of them.
In the meantime you yourself used those videos as proof of your stellar producing abilities in earlier conversations when you were so desperately trying to show off.
You are a joke babe. A nobody with a head too big even for the state of Texas.
It was dubbed, I was there and it was obvious it wasn't live.
ReplyDeletethose head notes are so CUTE
ReplyDeleteOkay like can someone post videos from the audience at rockafeller? Like I'm pretty sure she still sung well. Obviously they did multiple takes to get it right. I'm not asking mariah for much but I think (at least its heading towards) consistent vocal performances. Does anyone know if the rumors were true that she had her nodes removed a while ago?
ReplyDeleteIt has already been established that she has a very malleable tone and artistically she could modify it just fine, especially in the lower reachers of her voice. For me, my voice is more malleable at the bottom then the top. Naturally my voice is thick, heavy and rather cold and nasal at the bottom and starts to get piercing and slicing the higher I go. I can modify my mid register enough to sound warm but it is still some what slicing whether I try or not.
ReplyDeleteWhat's to say she doesn't have extreme tonal diversity? People generally make vocal fachs smaller than what they have to be, especially on the lower spectrum. She could perfectly be a dramatic IMHO. But on this front, subjectivity can come in so I'll leave it at that. I do see your point but though to an extent.
In my opinion, Mariah didn't lost her voice. In this particular performance, i felt that she was tired. Which is pretty common when you sing several times in a role. What i think is lacking, it's healthier habits. Like warning up the voice before singing, rest more and hire a vocal clinic/vocal coach to help her maintain that amazing gift she has. I'm not sure if she drinks a lot as some of the comments from youtube were saying, but if so, she needs to slow down. About the high notes that made her famous, they will never be the same. Although that doesn't mean she can't hit them anymore. But is this a big issue for her? I love her low and mid-range, they are beautiful. Especially if she focuses on singing songs like the art of letting go. I'm a huge fan of this blog! I never had the courage to post here before :) Greetings from Brazil
ReplyDeleteI get it, and that a lot of it is subjective, and I get it some artist have shown other voice type characteristics at times. But some of them such as tamar has never shown Coloratura abillities. But thank you for creating this blog, its nice to find a blog thats dedicated to music in a positive way
ReplyDeleteThis is a fallacy. She may not have performed often, but she was very consistent in the early nineties.
ReplyDeleteThere is more to the voice than technique and ability. A voice can have conviction, for instance.
ReplyDeleteOh my god ewwwwww you just called Logan Lerman a sex god
ReplyDeletewhat
I don't even
ewwwwww
that's like calling Justine Bieber a sex god
just no
Ok I was just wondering I miss your profiles but I understand.
ReplyDeleteTiffany Evans next, PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
ReplyDeleteMariah has said that Mary Ann Tatum (her background singer) is her vocal coach.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMVxLPLsshA
ReplyDeleteNever mind posted earlier
ReplyDeleteOh sweetie, I'm aggressive in general :) not just to you :) I just happen to especially dislike you. But the fact that you chose to attack my singing with baseless lies based on your flawed perception - when I had not even compared my singing to the artist you posted - well, that seems rather odd. I mean, I was comparing her to Mariah in her vocal prime and to Lady Gaga currently and to the other artists I mentioned. And the truth still stands that your fave sounds like another Etta James/Janis Joplin wannabe that grunts her way through a song, and the other ladies I mentioned are vastly superior - especially Vanessa Amorosi and Nikka Costa in that particular style of music/singing.
ReplyDeleteThis needs to be updated . She has been using a lot of that whistle register live lately!
ReplyDeleteHer voice has so much potential and I think she is going to just keep getting better. I'd like to point out she is extremely young, and has so much time to grow and mature.
ReplyDeleteI think she has good technique generally, probably from having so much training, but her voice is often nasal, especially mid- to high range. I haven't heard much from her lower range really either :/
ReplyDeleteAriana's clearly trying to recreate Mariah's belt back in 1995-6. that's why she's so head dominant. and to be honest, ariana clearly fails doing what Mariah does anyway i hope that she'll find her own styling.
ReplyDeleteWell she is a natural lyric soprano, so she probably has trouble with her lower register.
ReplyDeleteTHIS IS BEYOND!!!! WHY HAVEN"T I SEEN THIS?????? THIS IS OMG!!! SHE IS SUCH AN ANGEL but what happened to her? too much makeup i mean im used to her with natural look BUT THiS IS JUST GORGEOUS
ReplyDeleteLOL I have no idea why you haven't seen this. Do you live in Britain? it's a bit I cut from formerly BBC's The Jonathan Ross show.
ReplyDeleteWhat high notes does she hit here? https://yougen.tv/video/59fcc3e7-4884-4d28-9faf-9717b097a983/
ReplyDeleteSounds like E5s, F5s and F♯5s to me
ReplyDeleteAnd don't STOP the party - F♯5
ReplyDeleteSay what you WANT bout me - F5
they sounded easy for her
ReplyDeleteWell, not that easy.
ReplyDeleteThese notes are totally out of Gaga comfort range, she did them great on AMA and on Alan Carr, but she cracked on other occasions, showing that she isn't 100% comfortable doing them.
I hope that she avoids this F♯ on ARTRAVE like she did on JingleBellBall and save them for TV performances or she will end damaging her voice.
Wonder if you all who comment on Ariana's techniques can do better than her? I'd like to see your technique. Have you ever compared yourselves to Mariah? Can you see that you're worse than when Ariana is compared to Mariah? Intolerant people that can't accept other people's beautiness is nothing but a sore.
ReplyDeleteVery little of that made any sense.
ReplyDeleteshe is my new favorite young singer,,, so brandy...kelly clarkson and ariana grande are perfect in my book
ReplyDeleteNo, just no. Mariah's voice decline was largely due to her unhealthy whispering, which is very damaging to the vocal cords. Her belts were very well executed and healthy.
ReplyDeleteI like Ariana and I enjoyed her debut album. But - as many have mentioned - to me she sounds like "eau de Mariah", a diluted imitation of Mariah circa 2005. And when she doesn't sound like a knock off Mariah, she sounds like Leona Lewis (who used to be a knock off Mariah). I hope Ariana finds her own sound and style, because she is talented and a good singer.
ReplyDeleteShe has an okay voice, especially for somebody under 20 but... Still. She could be and do much better. Her voice is so thin and small tho,,, and no she cannot resonate that well. I was watching a performance of hers and the music got louder and boomed over her voice. loooooool. you could hear her...
ReplyDeleteI really don't know why people like her voice so much am I the only one who thinks she sounds like her nose is plugged when she sings?
ReplyDeleteShes such a "slut" at the end of the emotions cover video...Her point/laugh seems so choreographed she doesn't seem very authentic person.
ReplyDeleteher enunciation would be worst in whole history of singers,she sounds like singing with jam bread in mouth
ReplyDeletewell done my boy you're going great with life that day is not far when you'll be choose by president for "best stan ever" award
ReplyDeletelol this is called strategy!its been like years and people are still thirsty for someone like mariah so her label is creating this hype about her being next mariah so people give her a try and buy her music...tbh she doesn't even sound like mariah that lady was on another level of greatness.
ReplyDeletehmmm fifth harmony dinah jane and ally brooke are better then her
ReplyDeletetell this to ariana she is the who's cashing on next mariah card
ReplyDeleteno personal remark please! this blog is about vocals not personal life
ReplyDeleteSo agree, I don't understand when people compare singers to Mariah... Like sounding like Mariah or anything, Even when people were advertising Leona Lewis to sounding like Mariah.... I didn't see that either at all lol.
ReplyDeleteTo me Ariana sounds completely different! First off I can't really even understand what she's saying half the time when she sings, and she doesn't seem like an genuine, unique, artist...I mean to me the only going for her is her voice which is good! I'm not saying she's a terrible singer by any means. But at the end of the day what is she really bringing to music...
omg i thought i'm the only one here who knows about 5h lol they all so talented and yeah dinah and ally could really give ariana hardtime in vocal battle! and if ariana getting all this hype bc of her whistle note(which she is)then normani also beat her hard in that that girl has killer whistle tone along with ally
ReplyDeleteno lol never
ReplyDeleteAnyone else think she sounds extra "nasaly" here? Right There is my favourite song of hers, but when I listened to this I honestly thought it had been set to a higher pitch, for copyright reasons or something, by the uploader.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbSo0MS-e9E
yes lol anythime
ReplyDeletethis is called confusion she's been singing with two styles and here shes just mixing those two style together
ReplyDeleteAriana has recently used whistle tones multiple times in live performances and it is evident that her whistles have improved. She is one of the best vocalists in current music and still improving on her abilities:)
ReplyDeleteshutup she's better then you all and especially better then those teen stars demi fatvato,seltina,miley
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd0eP1gGg9Y
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKl-WrULXwY
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNVFOoN3fFk
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMyQVmg9rhQ
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVKm173g0Mw
ReplyDeletebutthurt
ReplyDeletewhistle register does not count as part of range.............. she's at around 3 octaves not 4 and it seems as though a soprano high c is her lowest head register note
ReplyDeleteCan you tell me why the whistle register is not part of the range?
ReplyDeleteidk about anyone else but she is a very painful singer to watch for me... I mean she does seem like shes doing everything right in terms of singing I'm not saying shes a bad singer. But just her enunciation and the way she looks when she sings is very uncomfortable..like her mouth movements lol. Its almost like Lorde's or Fiona Apple's movements on stage but just with her jaw and the way she sings... it doesn't look pleasant, really don't like newer singers they all sound like they are trying to hard to imitate rather than be themselves.
ReplyDeletePeople like to pretend Mariah owns the entire 90's rnb sound and that because Ariana prefers that type of music and makles that type of music shes a "copy cat" ... just like Mariah was a "copy cat" to Whitney when she was new.
ReplyDeleteWell, actually, in since 2013 to the present, Ariana have control with the register. She's a great singer
ReplyDeleteWell, actually, in since 2013 to the present, Ariana have control with the register. She's a great singer :)
ReplyDeletesaying a singer reminds you of christina aguilera is an insult if anything
ReplyDeleteShe definitely sings differently from the way she used to. She started off very weighty and gospelly. Now she places her voice wayyyy higher than she used to, so she sounds kind of like a smaller version of herself.
ReplyDeleteThe American Idol performance took the editing together of three times singing.
ReplyDeleteI could not disagree with you more. He does not have a pleasant tone.
ReplyDeleteWHOAAAAAAAAAA! Uh uh! Oh man, you just dropped an ATOMIC BOMB!
ReplyDeleteI'm gettin' out of here while I still can! This is NOT going to end well. I love you all, Good Night DD! lol
Dude, you know nothing of me. That is actually as far away from any statement I ever made on this blog as you can get.
ReplyDeleteAnd you are still failing to get the point that claims on the internet mean nothing.
You also still fail to understand the phrase "not as much as".
I am speaking as an internationally know and talked about critic, editor, photographer and expert on Applied Logic. My ass btw is also not fat because I happen to be one of the world's leading butt models. Just try and prove I am not.."I'll be waiting right here"
And you ought to get in touch with Luiz, he is as argument challenged as you are. :-)
I won't advice you to go fist yourself, you might hurt your head, considering how far it is up your own neither regions and all.
I ain't scared of the dude. He lacks the IQ and the arguments. Much as I dislike name calling and foul mouths, they do not scare me. :-)
ReplyDeleteYes. Definitely. Especially at those belts at the end. Really strong.
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