Monday 7 April 2014

Fan Trumps Mariah Carey And Rodney Jerkins With "You're Mine (Eternal)" Rework



Wow oh wow! Whilst incredibly bored, I found myself perusing fan-made versions of Mariah Carey's You're Mine, taking particular masochistic pleasure listening to people attempt the climax without fumbling the key or damaging the organic drums in my ears.  A tough ask it seemed, but I'm glad I persevered with it.

Whereas most of the renditions saw the individuals sing over an oddly tempo-ed instrumental that seems to be doing the rounds, YouTuber alcoholharmony totally reworked the ballad, transforming it into a more authentic representation of the genre at its source.


Thank Gizmo Durand Bernarr -owner of the channel- also has vocal chops, because he makes it easier for the less imaginative amongst us to hear how the Diva's own voice would slot into the version. I especially love the harmonies he dotted the track with. Walls of sound I could totally hear Mariah singing the hell out of.

Yep, the Diva recording a song like this would be a risk, but it's what she needs to do right now! I don't want another 50 rehashes/ hybrids of We Belong Together/Don't Forget About us. I want something new, something progressive!

Mariah has said she has no plans to leave Rnb and that's fine. It is totally possible to be creative and break new ground within the restrictions of a genre. She just needs to take her own advice and apply The Art Of Letting Go to We Belong Together. She'll be all the better for it...

To expand on this a bit, what do you guys want from Mariah with this new album? Also, why do you think this campaign has failed to capture the public's attention thus far?







 Thoughts?

99 comments:

  1. It was more interesting than Mariah's version however that attempt to hit the whistle register at the end which was an actually just a high falsetto was a bit hard on the ears, anyways I think Mariah, but is making simple tracks like this and "The Art Or Letting Go" because she can actually sing them live. "Almost Home" was a soundtrack that I dout we will ever get to here live. Lots of people complain that Mariah needs to stop Lipping and start singing material she that is she can actually sing live, well she has and now people are complaining its too simple. I for one would rather her sing something simple than make a track another big track like Vision Of Love that would never here her sing live or a dubbed version filled with whistles in place where belts should be.

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  2. She probably was sharing the stage with Lady Antebellum as a result of their Crossroads taping earlier this year.


    http://www.cmt.com/show/cmt_crossroads/series.jhtml


    I found it online and tried to watch it but have to admit....I couldn't get through it. If only they had paired her with another Country artist than that Pop/Roc....pardon ..... "Country" band. Personally, just the sight of them is already unpleasant to me.
    I also think there are any number of Country singers she would have sounded awesome with.
    This was okay but not ..Great.



    But the general idea of inviting Stevie for that show is not surprising. She is quite a popular singer amongst Country music fans.
    I know from the fanboards, loads of Alison Krauss fans also enjoy Stevie.

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  3. Nice Shakira, nice!, you're winning me back! :D

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  4. LOL "legend" seems a tad exaggerated right now.
    But, seeing as imo he is one of the best and bona fide male Country voices of his generations, in a few decades, looking back, I'd say of all present male Country singers, he stands the best change of deserving the adjective.

    And as for Shakira singing with Blake. Considering he is a good christian Married Country singer, maybe he was one of the few men her husband could stand to see her duet with? ;-D

    I liked this duet

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  5. And talking about Shakira's great live vocals... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92tkZQB-Uj4

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  6. Guy indeed seems to have vocal chops but I fear I cannot stand the whiny boyishness of today's male R&B singers.
    But I liked this reworked versions of the song itself better than Mariahs.

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  7. I can't let this become a habit, but here I go off topic again. Amber Riley performs her song Colorblind on Queen Latifah, I love the song for its simplicity and the lyrics. I love how it's not a supershowy song because Amber can obviously sing her face off... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=him80DjbZos

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  8. Nice one Leith!

    And Blake on the other hand seems to be a dude with a good sense of humor. He was funny in Reba's show, he was funny in Kelly's christmas special and his video is funny too. But of course very different style than Shakira there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04WRI-0odjk

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  9. I don't particularly like the way he took the song but I can see why you like it DD. Its very much less pop R&B and much slower and dramatic. He's a good singer but that pinched Falsetto in the end killed me.

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  10. And in a nice stripped setting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGH39IWcjHo

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  11. Yeah, I'm not bothered about her whistling and high belting. We've heard during her more improvisational moments that she can impress without those things. I'd even say that the whistling puts off the more causal listener, with most thinking it's more freakshow than impressive.

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  12. They're in touch with their emotions! Leave them be!

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  13. yeah, but you can totally imagine it as a Mariah whistle, right?

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  14. I'm not surprised she was there, just with the pairing. I WANTED SOLO STEVIE!

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  15. Her new album will FLOP... Mark my words. It's sad but it's the truth... Her looks are more important. :(

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  16. Any thoughts on what she can do to change this?

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  17. I should also say with the redo I could actually understand ALL the lyrics.

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  18. yeah, I should really have said the songs released thus far. My bad!

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  19. It's not gonna flop. It may not do as well as lets say Shakira's new album, or J Lo's eventual release but Mariah's fanbase is strong enough to keep her on the billboard charts.

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  20. First, she can start taking care of herself, and by herself I don't mean injecting botox, I mean stop drinking and start exercising and taking vocal lessons. I understand that the nodules and age affected her vocal health but it's not an excuse when you see a so called "Vocal Goddess" not able to perform one song fully live.. Second, she should promote the song, not just release it on the radios. And the song shouldn't be personal like TAOLG. AND PLEASE STOP IT WITH THE RAPPERS. Finally, she should shoot intriguing videos not like You're Mine...

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  21. And stop whispering too :P

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  22. THAT DD,was my very thought when trying to watch Crossroads!

    But I think that would have been less my sentiment had she been paired with other artists.
    I could imagine I would have enjoyed it better if she had been paired with say an Emmylou Harris. (or one of my favorite Country singers of course. Though in this case not Alison. For some reason in my mind that wouldn't really work all that well.)

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  23. LOL I just checked out some Blake Sheldon tunes for the first time. And the blame for that lies on your shoulders! ;-D
    And he seems quite in touch with his emotions sort of bloke. But he doesn't sound whiny while doing so. ;-)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xXD9-1mLBY

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXmmXAUqfd8

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  24. Terrible lyric writing though

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  25. Exactly! And in spite of the many stereotypes surrounding lesbians, this lesbian likes men to be men. ;-)
    (They can be effeminate but I'd still prefer an effeminate man over an effeminate boy).

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  26. All of which btw is not age related. I have seen the 3 year old son of a friend still totally be a "man" even at that age. You know what I mean?

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  27. Ew! She did a song wiht Rick Ross? The guy that raps/brags about raping women?

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  28. I would like Mariah Carey album to have songs she can sing live. If she feels she needs to show off, she can show off on songs that wont be a single or something.

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  29. When Blake sings about popping a pill. The way he sings it makes seem to unbelievable. Haha

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  30. Yikes.. sounds like they are at a karaoke bar.

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  31. LOL a Peeter eh?

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  32. Cant agree amore. But young girls cant get enough of it.

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  33. I have no issue with her working with Rappers, done some great tracks and albums that are rap featured. "Butterfly" and 'Emancipation". I think if she could make another album "Of Quality" as those two. She could be a winner. And lets not forget just because her singles have not done well doesn't mean she wont. Just look at Beyoncé lastest album, non of the singles where number of 1's.

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  34. True, but Beyonce came with a totally different business model with that album. I'm sure if she had tried the singles>album route, instead of surprise album then singles, it wouldn't have sold as well. No shade, I love the album. As for the rappers, i have no problem with that, but Triumphant was almost like Mariah was parodying herself with the amount of time she gave to the featured.

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  35. Nothing wrong with the strong silence type. Its the mystery behind it all. Mystery or more so the "mysterious man" seems to be a thing of the past, now its all about aggression and sex. That's why were stuck with crappy artist like Justin Beiber , Trey Songz, and Chris Brown. Vocal ability and class doesn't sell anymore.

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  36. Love me some JLo, but if she outsells Mariah, I'll be beyond surprised. As you note, at the very minimum, MC has the hardcore Lambs lined up waiting to buy whatever she releases. JLo does not. I would love to be in the label meeting where they define/identify who JLo's musical fans are. Judging by the noncommittal stylistic choices, I bet they are still figuring that one out. I wish her the best either way. I'll certainly buy it. As for Shakira, I was surprised by her sales. Kudos to The Voice increasing her visibility.

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  37. I only say JLo could outsell Mariah due to her uncanny ability to occasionally dish out meaningless trendy music that spreads like wildfire. She has a few eras that make no sense. Like on the floor. How that song managed to blow up as big as it did weirds me out. Idk how her Papi video is doing but it seems to have a lot of views on youtube.

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  38. I actually prefer Mariah's version. I agree his backing track sounded more modern and #phresh, but I just love Mariah's voice and her gorgeous tone and lower register. This boy has vocal chops, but I don't hear anything unique or worth listening for, and I gotta admit his face pubes and awkward video kinda ruins his version of the song for me.

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  39. Have you seen her latest photos? Her weight just can't fluctuate like this, it's like she's bulimic or something and that's really bad for her vocal health. And, you can see how sick I am with the nodules and age excuse. She isn't taking vocal lessons idk why and it's pretty sad. Finally, she isn't promoting, because it's not about releasing a song to the radios, it's about performing it everywhere on tv plus the radio release. I'm surprised that You're Mine is still on the charts....

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  40. Amen! It's just as Patti once declared: There are singers, and then there are SANGERS! Patti is undoubtedly a sanger, one in a league of her own entirely.
    LOL@ beyonce being mentioned in the same sentence as Patti...the shade lol

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  41. Trumps Mariah.. lolllll DD lollll

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  42. The original of "La quiero a morir" is also one of my favourite Spanish classics as well :) Funnily, my flatmate has been playing the song for almost a week and I can't seem to get tired of it.


    PS: And right now, looking for the video, turns out that the one I always thought was the original is actually a cover...

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  43. Was the "born with nodules" just a thing she said to make her seem more ethereal? She's also said she smoked, lost her voice, then gained an octave on her lower once it returned.

    Can you actually sing without any spaces in your range with nodules? The youtubers with nodules seem to have a certain "gap" where it's nothing but a gutteral air release.

    I think it was something she said because everyone marvelled at how someone could sing almost as low as a baritone and higher than most females, but Callas and Sumac did it as well, the former without the aid of a microphone.

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  44. I'm not definitive on this, so don't quote me, but I think her breathiness, easy access to the whistle register, and quick overall decline are consistent with the effects of nodules.

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  45. I don't really see it as there being a mystery behind it tbh. More like an economy of not talking when not talking will do.
    It's probably a case of opposites attract. Because I am a right old chatter box myself. LOL
    My view of men is rather that they are pleasantly easy in their straightforwardness.

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  46. Oh Brian, "generic" doesn't even begin to cover those lyrics. They are damn near a parody of generic. ;-D
    "piss poor" is the phrase which comes to mind.

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  47. Problem must be at your end. It plays just fine for me.
    Try this one
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ychM1FVjSU

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  48. Primo Uomo Assoluto8 April 2014 at 07:54

    I'm not interested on being "interesting" to you :) I'd rather not be in the company of Miley Cyrus and Kelly Clarkson.

    The fact still remains that I am, technically speaking, vastly superior to your faves. As wonderful a musician as Alison Kraus is, she is not a vocalist in the truest sense of the word. As much as you try to hype Anouk, her vocal palate seems to be rather limited and unable to execute some of the vocal acrobatics I can execute, and that as aggregate my divas can execute.

    You are deadly ignorant on how a studio works. An album is worked on by several people, one main engineer and some secondary or assistant engineers, there are tracking engineers, there are mixing engineers, etc. In my original post 4 months ago when I talked about my experiences in the studio and literally said "some of the things I worked on" (Not some of the albums I worked in as main producer), I mentioned two albums that have been commercially released in which I worked on throughout the whole process. Meaning I contributed to the recording process, editing, comping, mixing, etc. I was not the main producer or main engineer. And one of those albums, the punk one, happened to be when I had just started at a studio, and they felt no need to give me credits.

    The fact you claim the link I posted, who belongs to a channel different than mine on YouTube, is my link trying to add "fake" views, shows you engage on extensive fantasies.

    I have no need to "back edit" things which are not insults :) but I'd dare you to go through my comment history and find contradictions, since you claim there are some, I want proof :)

    But perhaps you should instead concentrate on getting a life of your own instead of stalking me. Considering you are the one who hides her appearance online, the one jobless, single, childless - In other words, with no life...As those things are things you yourself told to someone, who I suppose liked me better than you. Or did you lie to that person? :)

    http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/1383256941163471_animate.gif

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  49. Primo Uomo Assoluto8 April 2014 at 08:03

    Oh, and just to provide receipts, this is what I actually said.
    I don't see me claiming to be the main producer, only that I worked on those albums :) thus my experience in the studio.

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  50. Or the company of Streisand,Callas and Fleming. But no worries, You never will. As all of those singers (including Krauss and Anouk ) have something which is beyond your nature. No matter how many vocal acrobatics you are "able to execute".

    And back track all you want. I presume that means you have found the relevant comment and back edited by now. :-)
    And since you did several times dear, how am I going to find proof of that now? That is the whole purpose of your back editing...to eradicate the proof of your fantastic claims.

    Amusing how you demand proof from me, yet there ya go...back to your fantasy profile of my life.

    Hon, you keep scrambling and it might convince some young and/or dim ones but like I said, I do know your affliction and understand why. I just hope you are aiming at trying to fool others because it's wasted on trying to fool me. I see you bro! :-)

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  51. My break is at around a G#4, yet everyone considers me a Bass; my music teacher even ...

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  52. What you are doing there is responding to my questioning you working as a producer. so yeah, your whole comment there implies you worked as either engineer or producer on those two albums mentioned. You actually claim I will be able to "check" that claim.
    Well I did. On the one album which was commercially released and therefor can be checked. You weren't mentioned in the credits in either capacity.

    And in the same comment, typically narcissist so busy with keeping up the one aspect of his fake persona he feels is threatened,you fail to realize you are undermining it at the same time by posting the proof of other contradictory statements at the same time, you refer me to your own channel and your videos.
    And you also end that comment with "in any case, I got nothing to prove to you because...who are you and why should I care?"

    And here you are...5 months later. Still caring enough to prove something to me. Only difference is, you now fantasized a story around who I am. ;-)

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  53. But I stand corrected on you back editing that particular comment. Likely because you fail to recognize it proofs my point rather than yours.
    Much like the other times you thought you posted proof backing up your claims but in fact were doing the opposite.

    I told you dude, other than being educated in music theory, you aren't as bright as you think you are.
    You are unfortunately also not as bright as I initially thought you are.

    In fact, you have become pretty boring in your repetitive scrambling. :-(
    Think I will just log off now. Have a nice day! :-)

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  54. TY! Thanks, yes, it seems like that's something that'd be a real kicker. As someone with astmah, I really enjoy the breathing part. But it seemed to work for Michael Bolton. I'll look into it.

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  55. It is actually, especially her talking voice, which was always raspy. I'm just surprised she didn't have any gaps. Maybe that's why her head voice is weaker than her whistle?

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  56. I felt the necessity to share this with you all. The lead singer in this video is amazing. I love her voice. She's Brazilian. I really want to know which vocal fach her voice belongs to. Anyone?!?!?!?




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LDbwOEHiVE

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  57. Really??? I think those are amongst the poorest covers of both songs I think I ever heard. And I am talking both lead and group singing.

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  58. Some people can have some form of vocal problems develop from an extremely early age. Some babies who have really bad colic end up having nodules form later in adolescence due to the nonstop screaming and crying. And yeah you can sing very well with Nodules. Nodules CAN take away notes but do not ALWAYS behave that way. They can affect the texture and tone of your voice. She's said her voice is husky even though she can sing really high because of her nodules.

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  59. An example of Legato at 3:41


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Av9ULpIU0q4

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  60. Unfortunately i can't listen to the video due to some technical problem and it looks like i'm not going to watch it but just listen to it, in reference to @MikeyPop's statement. But I'm gonna tell my thoughts to Mariah's album. It seemed that she's not naming it Art of Letting Go which is good because i find it cheesy but i'm still not sure of this info. Secondly i don't think this album is going to flop. Mariah is really trying to make it happen (get it? lol). If you guys will observe her social media accounts she always talk about working on the album ever since its inception which means, she is doing necessary overhauls based on the public's perception to her released singles. Other than that, even though #Beautiful didn't enter the top 10 in Billboard, it only charted at number 15, still that is good enough because if we recall TEOM's lead single It's Like That only charted at 16 but when We Belong Together was released everything changed, it redefined Mariah. Now i think that's all she needs, a game changer song that will once again prove why is she the epitome of a Very High Diva, the music video also needs to be narrative and not just some stuck up diva also she should lose some weight, by Hollywood's standard she's fat and a lot of people will say she looks good but we all know she looks better just a bit skinnier (also remember Xtina's case). So that's all FOR NOW at least. I'll edit this later.

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  61. His whistle is quite annoying

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  62. The difference between Mariah and JLo, is the following things. First, Mariah has a hardcore fan base (lambs), that have been following her years, and watch her every footstep. JLo seems to depend on the current listener, and not a hardcore fan base to get her stuff to sell. Next, Mariah dabbles in less commercial stuff (still beautiful), but less of what is "trendy", and goes her own direction in her music. JLo seems to follow the current on what music to release, and rarely leaves the "current". Lastly, Mariah is a vocalist, and is known for her vocals, while JLo is more of a performer (not a bad thing), but depends more on putting on a show than singing. I personally prefer Mariah, and I think her album might be a Emancipation of Mimi 2.0 sales wise, due to #Beautiful doing so well. But, I don't like JLo and I actually love Jenny From The Block. Either way both woman are great!

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  63. Well, I have a comfortable singing range of F#2 - F#4, could you explain to me where my lower register, lower- mid register, upper- mid register and upper register would start and then finish? I have been told by numerous (experienced) choral teachers that I am a Kavalier (Spinto) Baritone.

    So, would my Lower register be F#2 - C3? Mid Register be C3 - E4 and then Upper register be F4 + or do I have it wrong?

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  64. Yep! Was totally about the whine

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  65. Aww, don't be mean! But yep, freshness is what I want from mariah, which is maybe why I liked this so much. I agree with @primo , try listening again without watching the video.

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  66. thedigblackbick9 April 2014 at 02:01

    LOL SORRY, but his video just made me laugh. I can't take him seriously with all his seductive motions. The boy has a voice, but the video was offputting hahaha.
    Also, why the Gabourey Sidibey theme? I've been offline for quite a bit.

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  67. Well I actually did watch without the visual, and as I said, he doesn't have a bad voice, but I don't hear anything noteworthy or particularly stellar to listen for.

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  68. I'm in a terrible mood and I just felt to post this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfFZqTlWrQ


    I really wanna punch somebody ¬¬

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  69. Why are you in such a terribly mood Leith? Who is it you really want to punch?

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  70. Because she be awesome! (It won't be here for long). I was just feeling her that day.

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  71. In my opinion, her "quirky" voice does not gel well with his. Christina's duet with him was far sweeter on the ears for me. And is it just me or is this song is very lyrically similar to Just A Fool as well?

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  72. I love whitney's and Patti's tones, but i don't like Aretha's. It's just a matter of taste.

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  73. Are you saying Kelly Clarkson is better or in the same level as Patti? Maybe in some years she will be that good, but not yet, not at all.

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  74. This was recorded in 2012 (no joke Mimi has been hot mess city so far. Keep us waiting to release something two years old?!) Beyonce recorded this in 2013.

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  75. I would love to have a private convo with you about Whitney's vocal range

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  76. So,people have been arguing whether she is a mezzo-soprano or a soprano. Which one is it?

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  77. Prime Whitney was a Spinto-Soprano, no doubt.

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  78. Someone should really make a review of the performance she did at the White House with Ariana Grande, Jill Scott, Janelle MonĂ¡e and Melissa Etheridge. Aretha Franklin was performing there too.

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  79. The thing about Ms. Patti's dissent is firstly--she is a dramatic of dramatic sopranos. Secondly, she really feels the need to let us know that quite often.

    When you consider the fact that she's mixing and the sound is about 10-15 times as powerful as the effort she puts into it, it's truly a feat. But then she sometimes goes for the "soul" route.

    Lots of old Soul musicians used an impaired technique, most often due so smoking, or a past full of hard drugs. You can hear them sometimes lose placement entirely and fall flat or shap.

    Patti mimics this, but she does it with control. While her voice is far too powerful to ever really be "soft" (even her light mix belts drowned out Cydni's full voice), it can be adopted to sing nice "lyric" phrases. "Love. need, and want you baby" "If only you knew." A voice more albe to accomodate both--but with less power at the top would be Whitney Houston.

    And belts in the 6th octave sound more like noise to me; they have almost no color to them for pretty much whoever is singing them. As useless as whistle in the upper 7th and 8th octaves.

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  80. Two questions: Don't Dramatic Sopranos have a lower tessitura than other types? Patti seems to have an incredibly high one that enables her to hold very high notes for extended periods of time. But this may have to do with question two.

    Second: Did she have training somewhere in the late 70s. Prior to his, she still has the big head voice, but the voice does not as easily ascend to the upper 5th octave.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plt-pTqnRoQ

    She's much smaller and yougner here (23); it could be that her voice had to settle. I've heard that dramatic/thicker voices take longer to peak. Or she could have been less bodacious because she had to sing in a group.

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  81. Patti Labelle's voice didn't mature into that of a "Full- Dramatic Soprano" until the Mid- 1980's when she entered her 40's. She was, undoubtedly, a "Standard- Spinto Soprano" throughout the 1970's and prior. However, yes, Patti Labelle did receive 'technique' training in the early- 1980's when her voice was experiencing it's fundamental change; I read on a fan forum that around this time, she felt as if her voice had lost it's 'brightness & suppleness' (which, presumably, must have been the Lyrical attributes) and was becoming increasingly darker & heavier as well as louder - that's when she was informed of the fact that she was becoming a Dramatic- oriented voice and she sought to utilize it properly.


    Notwithstanding, this is when she learned how to 'mix' properly hence why she was/is able to hold notes as high as B5 - D6 for extended periods of time and because her voice is, naturally, large, it carries much more resonance thus has withholding much more stamina/endurance for high notes than a smaller voice would.

    By the way, if Whitney Houston [unfortunately] had not turned to Drugs & utilized a much healthier technique (such as learning how to 'mix') she, too, may have become a Dramatic Soprano.

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  82. No, they're Sopranos. They're tessituras are always high lol Being a Dramatic just means you have an incredibly darker but colder tone. You have a large voice, massive weight with a metallic quality to the tone. But tessitura? No, it's high. Not always, there are some different cases but essentially they should be high. They just lack the size brightness and smaller size the other fachs do.
    Training? I'm not sure if she did. She tends to sing with some awful methods and training would exempt one from the many mistakes Patti seems to make. So based on that, no. I don't think she's had any vocal training.

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  83. Interesting Patti overview, thankx.

    With Whitney; I always thought of her voice as the direct correlate of a Spinto. My reasoning:If you listen to Patti, even back then, softer lines still sound heavy and a bit loud.

    When she sings with Cydni, the light mixes she does still kind of overpower the "true colors" singer. Whitney always had this tiny sound that could bloom into a surprisingly bold phrase. When Patti does this, it isn't as surprising because the voice has a natural weight throughout.

    I think if she did become a dramatic soprano, she would've lost that endearing lyric quality. "All the man I need" "Don't Cry For Me" would sound very, very different.

    And I thought she did mix but used a chestier mix? How on Earth did she do "Hold Up the Light" that easily when it was on E/Fs?

    Then again, I guess we'll never know :(. It seems like spintos/dramatics are somewhat interchangeable until trained.

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  84. e jerry powell28 May 2014 at 03:09

    Mother can be heard over even Marilyn Horne at her fog-Horne-iest.

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  85. LOL Unfortunately I have no idea what that is referring to?

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  86. video has no audio :(

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  87. I quite like his voice as well, I really liked his duet with Christina in Just A Fool (Unfortunately, Christina's timber in that whole album became too harsh for me) and also Honey Bee. I may get into his material one day.

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  88. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm6IXg1oEL4&feature=kp

    Honestly one of my all time favorite songs, even though I can't sing along to it haha. She does her tight throaty thing at the extremities of the chorus, but generally sounds gorgeous and resonant throughout. Beautiful song still.

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  89. Keyshawn Samuel7 June 2014 at 01:04

    This is the true definition of a POWERHOUSE SINGER.
    Y'all can have Jennifer Hudson, Beyonce and Christina Aguilera but hell none of them got shit on Patti.

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  90. I'm not happy him coming for my Daughter Britney at the awards, though! Bad Blake!

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  91. That line popped out at me too!

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