Wednesday, 11 March 2009

Beyonce - Vocal Range/Profile

beyonce singing
Vocal Type: Mezzo- soprano
Vocal Range: 3.1 octaves. B2- C6 (approx)
Whistle Register: No
Longest Note: 14 seconds - 'Flaws And All' (live)
Vocal Pluses:Incredible vocal flexibility and dexterity that allows for pin-point accurate and fast melisma without issue. The chest voice is clear, smooth, and elastic, being able to reach notes above a D5 without the tone of the voice suffering via brilliant mixing of the chest and head voice. The head voice itself is bright, full and resonant with a smooth texture and a warm timbre. Overall a technical singer with amazing control and a stunning vibrato.
Vocal Negatives: Voice can become shrill when belted higher notes are used minus the vibrato.

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259 comments:

  1. Beyonce has gone higher than C6..

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  2. Beyonce has never surpassed a C6. But 3.1 Octaves is great!!

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  3. It's changed now
    Her Live Range is: Bb2-F6
    Her Studio Range is: A2-E6
    All together it's: A2-F6

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  4. beyonce is somewhat overrated people think shes the best singer in the world 
    her tone isn't very interesting and for me her voice can get really annoying 
    her vocal range isn't anything incredible either 
    but she has great control over what she can do

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  5. her mid range is gold but her high notes are anooying for me except her f5 it's really pleasnt to listen to. her vocal runs are amazing but she over sings them. i hate her low notes, her head voice have a nice texture. her range is good. but she is less then soulless and we all know that is the most important thing in singing and yes she is kind of overrated.

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  6. Wow. I actually think she's underrated, especially when it comes to her singing. Everyone sees her as an entertainer and no one really notices how good a singer she is. Only the other day, someone was telling me Adele had a wider range than Beyonce. I'm like, Shut up. -_-

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  7. Patrick Castillo19942 December 2011 17:14

    need i cay anything, beyonce is great, but her vocal range is bigger than 3 octaves.
    Destiny's child albums (Bb2-E6)
    Dangerously in Love (D3-D6)
    B'Day (Bb2-D6)
    I am...Sasha Fierce (A2-C#6)
    4 (G#2-D6)
    Live vocal range (G#2-D7)
    Studio vocal Range (G#2-E6)

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  8. She has potential to veer of course with the higher registers but it's her unbelievable control that keeps her within her limits, which unfortunately can't be said for a lot of these other female vocalists everyone harps on about.  Disagree with the "low notes", I think this is where she showcases her versatility as they are almost always very rich and textured, even with her superior vibrato. And c'mon...."soulness"? That is not the most important thing when singing.  Who really gives a shit?  If you sound good singing the song then fantastic!!  

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  9. Beyonce is not the best singer ever but she go ok contol

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    1. She is I love her n no other young singer is better than her

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  10. her technique is great her voice is awesome her delivery is fantastic. but i still think soul is the most important thing in singing that's why I prefer The Queen Aretha, Miss Aguilera and Miss Alicia over The Songbird, Miss Bey, Miss Celine and Miss Whitney.

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  11. I think it's kind of a fail that she can only sustain a F5 and her G5's are exclamations and her G#5 is just air. so her highest belt is F#5. and it's still amazing and she sounds wonderful on her F's. but what I meant is that CA can Sustain an E5 with pure chest voice. I know it isn't as good as Bey's F'5 but Bey's notes are mixed and she
    can't hit the high G.

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  12. she have an amazing control but her voice is thick and not so
    interesting in her mid-low range except when used in a vocal run like in her dangerously in love performances. her belted notes are smooth and clear with a wonderful vibrato but you
    can't real tell if it's her real voice or not because of the microphone she uses these days. but back in 1999-2002 it was her real voice and it was amazing. in this performance you'll see that i was wrong about her mid range and you were wrong about her low notes. cause her voice thick and not in a fancy way like christina aguilera and not in a confident way like kelly clarkson. it was thick and aggerssive. her head voice is amazing like i said. her technique is brilliant. but it's quiet a fail that she can't sustain a F#5. she uses mixed voice
    and she can't hit any note above F#5 her G are exclamations
    and her G# is air. but i have to say that even her exclamations are great but her G# was a fail. she doesn't feel her music and that's the most important thing in singing. here is the performance i talk about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnFWzq4c3VI

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  13. Beyonce is somewhat overrated, I agree. But I think it's phenomenal that she's done what she can with what she's got. I don't think she's as gifted vocally as singers like adele and christina. But with years of work, she's improved her voice from a technical aspect, and I think it's appreciated. Her melismas tend to annoy the heck out of me though.

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  14. Her vocal range is actually Bb2-E6 (i guess she touches A2 in Bb2 that is calles 'B2' in this video). Her lowest spoken note is a G#2.

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  15. okay people i think that beyonce is an incredible singer but the only reason i think people call her overrated is because she is thought of as a better singer than everyone else when shes really not 
    for me its her control that really amazes me, but IMO any gospel singer can outsing her 

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  16. "you can't really tell if it's her real voice these days" - have a look here. a completely live performance, in a hospital, with no mics just some BVs and a guitar player
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8tK1rGpog&feature=related

    Also. beyonce can go higher than a c6. Listen to some of the notes she hits in "I Care"!

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  17. Anyone who thinks she's "overrated" and "soulless" - have a look here, where she is performing in a hospital for children in Singapore, without a mic, only a couple of BVs and a guitar player. Especially look at second verse on. Her vocal runs are smooth, effortless, her transitions are stunning, her head voice is pure and free. She's not overrated at all - quite the opposite!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8tK1rGpog&feature=related
    Enjoy! x

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  18. Bey have the best technique, vibrato, runs and maybe dynamics in the business but she doesn't have the best tonal quality (Tone) between the best singers out there. 

    1-Xtina, Leona, Mimi, Celine and Kelly all have a better tonal qualities then Bey.
    2-Mimi and Bey lacks soul which i find the best thing in singing though Bey can be soulful at times in her "If I Were a Boy" performances.3-Xtina, Leona and Mimi beats Kelly, Celine and Bey at range.

    4-Xtina is the "Voice" of the generation. Bey is the "Technical
    Singer" of the generation. 

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  19. That is what it is9 January 2012 09:11

    1-Bey/Barbra Streisand: The Greatest Technical Singers.

    2-Xtina: The Greatest and Most Versatile Tonal Singer.

    3-Mimi/Leona Lewis: The Sweetest Tonal Singers.

    4-Leona Lewis: The Singer With The Great Vocal Styling.

    5-Kelly C/Celine D/Nicole S: The Greatest Female Rock Singers.

    6-Aretha Franklin: The Greatest Soul/Gospel Singer.

    7-Jennifer H/Amber R/Whitney H: The Greatest Belters.

    8-Alicia K/Toni B/Chaka K: The Greatest Contraltos:

    9-Beyonce: The Greatest Vibrato and Runs.

    10-Mariah Carey: The Greatest Range/Whistle Singer.

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  20. 1-Bey/Barbra Streisand: The Greatest Technical Singers.

    2-Xtina: The Greatest and Most Versatile Tonal Singer.

    3-Mimi/Leona Lewis: The Sweetest Tonal Singers.

    4-Leona Lewis: The Singer With The Greatest Vocal Styling.

    5-Kelly C/Celine D/Nicole S: The Greatest Female Rock Singers.

    6-Aretha Franklin: The Greatest Soul/Gospel Singer.

    7-Jennifer H/Amber R/Whitney H: The Greatest Belters.

    8-Alicia K/Toni B/Chaka K: The Greatest Contraltos.

    9-Beyonce: The Greatest Vibrato and Runs.

    10-Mariah Carey: The Greatest Range/Whistle Singer.

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  21. Beyoncé is a very attractive person, phenomenal stamina too. She keeps improving too...you never know that one day, she'll be able to hit those high notes.

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  22. I couldn't agree with you more... everyone always compares Bey to Mary... cuz Mary sings with grit and soul so people think that automatically makes her better,...I don't carte how much emotion you sing with... but if you sing with no control, your vocal runs sound like a train wreck, and your head voice is under developed...I'm sorry that does not make you a superior singer cuz you have some soul...

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  23. Yup, even when you are a great singer, without a well-controlled voice, a sad song will turn into a grumpy song. Beyoncé unbelievable vocal control is one thing that we should look at because from that point, she showcases her geniusity in music to make a sad song to be heard like a sad song and plus, she can sing while she is wildly dancing which shows that she posseses phenomenal stamina. Stop saying that her vocal is annoying or what, why should you be so judgemental when you can't even sing?

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  24. Patrick Castillo199410 February 2012 17:31

    for those who have said that Beyonce has never gone above (C6)! listen to Dance For You(D6) , I Care(C#6), Happy Face(E6), Purple Rain [live](F6), Up Grade You(D6), and there are others but i can't remember them at the moment-_-!

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  25. yeah her tone is the only thing that isn't that great about her voice 
    but she has incredible control over her voice and runs seem effortless for her

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  26. her voice is good but if you compared it some singers on you tube and even Kelly Rowland you will see how average her voice is  .beyonce can simply be imitated ..there are some many singer out here that sound like her ..even if you listen to "TRAIN OVER TRACKS" by Kelly you will see how much their voice sound alike ..i admired her voice because her voice is the prefect example of hard work and vocal training and determination she isn't really a natural talent to me a lot of vocal training and  breathing support  .her voice can be very boring and unoriginal and even sound the Same in every song .she is overrated .. but i think it is impressive that she sounds good live while dancing ..she doesn't really have tone to me her voice seems so cool and smooth which i like . her F5 are boring which comes at ease to her but even when Christina hits her F5 even tho they are not prefect they are really powerful and impressive not to mention send chills thru your body .bey isn't really that versatile .she isn't on my list of best singer but on my list of performers cause that is how i see her

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  27. The best voice and singer of her generation hands down. 

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  28. Christina will always be the voice of the generation. but Beyonce is the singer of the generation, she have he best Vibrato, Runs, Dynamic and Technique nowadays but her is meh except when she pushes her larynx down like in the BET awards performance of "Ave Maria".

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  29. Beyonce can sing a semitone lower and a semitone higher all in this video 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LXDWnM7e7k.

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  30. Beyonce have an amazing control and a resonate, well supported and connected range, she can sustain every note of her (Bb2-C#6) (minus F#5, G5 and G#5 belts) with vibrato. Beyonce's strongest register is her lower register it's well supported, dark and robust and it's ridiculous who she hit F3 without any effort. her belt register is powerful but limited Cuz belted notes above F#5 sound forced and not as rich and controlled as notes below them. her head voice is her weakest register and it's where she pushes her voice a little bit but it's not as limited as the belted register but overall Beyonce's strongest points are her technique, runs and dynamics which reminds me of mariah's but I think Beyonce is slightly better in this point overall she is an amazing singer but her voice isn't as good as other singer like Leona, Kelly C, Celine, Mariah and Xtina.

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  31. Beyonce is a true vocalist with fantastic control, restraint and technique. Christina's 'technique' (if you could even call it that) is shitty and amateurish. Because of this every single one of CA's belts is plagued with strain. It may sound better to you but it is extremely unhealthy and dangerous to the vocal chords. Bey is a far better technical singer, and technique is the most important factor in singing.

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  32. Soul and conveying of emotion all boils down to personal opinion. However there are are some things in singing that are not a matter of opinion, such as technique.
    Technique is by far the most important aspect of singing and is far more important than soul, as that is debatable.

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  33. I agree, to a certain, extent! She has an incredible knowledge of her voice that most singers could barely comprehend! Not only is it expressive its able to be manipulated in various interesting ways. For me I prefer her live sound, her voice seems a touch fuller and more emotive. Her MJ tribute at the BET awards floored me! Simply beautiful.

    Not only that you have one of the finest dancers and artistic enteretainers of recent times, quite easily the next (female) MJ...

    Hopefully she wont leave it too long before hitting the studio again, she is one of the few artists that you can have a genuine exciting anticipation for!

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  34. After watching a couple of backstages from her I Am Tour and I Am Yours Las Vegas Show, I can say that I admire her a lot more. She's an amazing singer, writer and dancer, but she's also so meticulous, dedicated and works so hard to make everything perfect. She works with all the band members and arranges all her songs; she works with the choreographers to add her own moves; she works with the fashion designers to create the outfits she likes to wear on stage; she creates everything the setlist, the videos, the stage... She's so amazing, I can't even start to understand how can she do so many different things so perfectly.

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  35. I feel the same way, I actually admire her work ethic and dedication a lot except that she isn't a writer. How many times has she been sued/blasted by songwriters from claiming songwriting credits? However, she is the best performer of this generation

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  36. Huh? I love Bey what what she is not one of the finest dancers. LOL. She isn't even that skilled as a dancer. She is the best performer of this generation, yes but fine dancers of this generation should be Ciara, Britney, Nicole Scherzinger (just on top of my head).

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  37. yeah beyonce is a great performer - i wouldnt quite put her on MJs pedestal yet though because shes not as revolutionary and shes not as talented, but i admire her for being of the best mainstream singers 

    and yes shes not the strongest dancer because most of her choreography involves her swinging her weave all over the place, but she has great breathe control and better than most today 

    and beyonce, ciara, britney, and nicole are okay dancers - when compared to true contemporary and skilled dancers, they pale in comparison 

    and britneys not even good at dancing anymore either .... soooo 

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  38. whats the difference???

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  39. i actually prefer mariahs runs to beyonces 
    and mariahs voice (in her prime) was just impeccable and she didn't grunt or strain when she reached for high notes unlike beyonce 
    but beyonce is probably the only good performer - dancing/singing out of the ones u mentioned

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  40. Of course she's a writer, I know about some legal problems but most of them are misunderstanding or lies. You can tell but most of the lyric content in her album 4 that she wrote most of the lyrics.

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  41. I don't think Ne-Yo lied or The Dream lied. Or BC Jean lied. And didn't Kelly say once she never did see Beyonce write a song even though she has writing credits in almost every Destiny's Child hit? She can produce though and can write sick harmonies but that's it.

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  42. Wow. I couldn't disagree more. I think Beyonce shits on Ciara, Britney, and Nicole Scherizinger when it comes to dancing. She's a fantastic dancer. It's all subjective anyway.

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  43. Kelly didn't see Beyonce write a song? Wow! So that means she didn't write the songs! Nice logic!

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  44. Diva since you all ready did a profile for Lea and Amber you should do a profile for Dianna Agron and the reason why I'm posting this here Cuz her abilities remind me so much of Beyonce. 
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzUOyflw0YE 
    I think she have the best and fastest vibrato in glee and one of the best i've ever heard you can hear it at 1:30 and 2:10 and her runs are good specially at 1:50 and the whole song showcase her amazing breath control and her dynamics at 0:40 seems good.

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  45. Thanks for that!! I've already started her profile..just got distracted and never finished. But that'll help!

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  46. You are wrong. If she didn't write anything why did she won pop songwriter of the year award (2001). Don't you think the american society of composers would have known the true songwriters of those songs? She wouldn't have won such important award if she hadn't written the songs. The thing with Ne-Yo was a misunderstanding. He wrote most of the lyrics in a male perspective, but Beyoncé helped with the vocal arragement, melodies and armonies. Therefore, the song is a co-write.There's no problem with BC Jean. She wrote If I Were a Boy and Beyoncé bought it like many artists do. Bey didn't claim any writing credit, even when a lot of changes were done to the song (if you heard BC Jean original version you'll see). The same with Kelly. I can't find a single article about what you say, that she never saw Beyoncé writing a song for the DC. Check up ALL the facts, because you're seriously wrong.

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  47. Beyonce didn't buy the track, she found it in studio and sampled it, then completely took the song. She commonly referred to it as the song she wrote especially when performing and then BC Jean found out and tried to sue her. But of course seeing as Beyonce is rich with an entire record labels legal division to back her up they settled Jean down with an agreement to place her proper spot as the songwriter. Beyonce HAS written songs. But she has also taken what isn't hers. The thing with Neyo wasn't a misunderstanding. They had an agreement and Beyonce didn't play her part after the song was completed. So if he doesn't get any form of compensation im sure the next step would be the legal system to get what belongs to him. In reality the only difference between BC Jeans version and Beyonce's is the production of the vocals, because they are two very different vocalists. But other than that it is the same song. Beyonce is really infamous for changing a line or a few words and then buying out the real songwriters rights to the song, either the right way or the illegal way,then claiming that she wrote, composed, produced, etc. a song. It's rather sad of such a great technician to steal from others.

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  48. Beyonce doesn't just take tracks from Popular songwriters. She goes for the talent that doesn't have much of a chance to fight back. Therefor this "Organization" of songwriters would be completely oblivious to this fact as long as Beyonce is listed as the songwriter. The music industry is very corrupt. I always thought it was harder for singers to make it, but in reality songwriters are the ones most cheated out of their work.

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  49.  Don't forget the whole "Smack Into You" "Smash Into You" incident.
    She took Jon McLaughlin's entire song, changed one word and he wasn't even given writing credits on the "I Am... Sasha Fierce" album. Beyonce was listed as the songwriter instead.

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  50. There was a Sony Employee speaking openly about how Beyonce's team had no real part in the making of any of the songs on "I Am...Sasha Fierce" and that all they did were either take or buy the songs and placed her name on them making her the "Songwriter". He was later fired from Sony. Weird huh?

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  51. the difference is Xtina have a better tone, voice, texture and Bey have better control and skills.

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  52. "Smash Into You" wasn't in the original release of the album, it was part of the deluxe edition and Jon McLaughlin didn't write it at all (check the ASCAP page, please). Stop with the lies, you guys can't even give a reliable source, just rumors and more rumors (created by haters, of course). If she had stolen a song, she would have been sued for sure.

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  53. @Nahu  if beyonce truly wrote these songs and didnt steal them - there wouldnt be controversy i love beyonce but shes not a strong songwriter 

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  54. nicole won dancing with the stars soo.... and she started dancing before beyonce did because PCD started out as a burlesque group 

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  55. the only thing i like about xtinas voice is her tone 
    but beyonce kills her in technique, expression, and control 
    xtina always strains even when hitting a B4 which is weird considering its smack dab in the middle of her range 

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  56. FOR me i think bey's breathe control and ability to sing and dance at the same time is what makes her so impressive 
    not many singers out right now can sing and dance at the same time 

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  57. Beyoncè has the whistle register! Check out "Falsetto and Whistle register (C6 - G#7)" on youtube!Is clear that between falsettos and real whistles she does a whistle!

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  58. Read this, a producer calling out Beyonce and Matthew on taking songwriting credits on Bootylicious. LMAO. 
    http://www.theprophetblog.net/producer-rob-fusari-calls-out-beyonce-mathew-beyonce-took-credit-for-my-idea

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  59. hey DIVA you should do a profile for shania twain! 

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  60. She does not sound very clear when she uses her falsetto and head voice while moving fast on a stage performance. it easily gets disrupted by her movement. her belting voice is great. by the sound of her higher notes, she can develop the whistle register in high faint notes

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  61. Hey guys, I found this video that shows a lot of Beyonce's musical abilities. Enjoy!!!

     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN2TbWMvuw

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  62. Yuval Shay Michaelis2 June 2012 18:17

    In my opinion Bey's tone sounds MUCH better!
    I like Christina , but I thing Bey has a better voice overall !

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  63. I enjoy her live vocals more than anyone. Her sing-rap delivery is addictive. She's the only artist I'm excited to see perfom. She has a great song catalogue and she is a great dancer. Best artist in the industry.

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  64. Ok That's a complete fail. As far as Dancing. Ciara > Nicole Scherizinger. Not only is Ciara an amazing natural dancer, she picks up choreography effortlessly. Nicole is just a beast period.

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  65. Beyonce is not really a mezzo. She's a dramatic soprano. If u see , her low notes are gorgeous because of her being a dramatic voice and so are her high notes. She is most comfortable in her mid range like other dramatic soprano ( i myself am one) but she has a higher tessitura and her tone is lighter than most mezzos ...

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  66. TheTomimomi45528 June 2012 21:27

    Her vocal range is G#2 - G#5 - E6 in studio and Bb2 - G5 - F6 live. :)

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  67. יובל מיכאליס16 July 2012 19:56

    1-Tonal quality is a matter of opinion ,

    And in MY opinion , bey has a better tonal quality than Xtina !
    2 - You can't say if she lacks soul, because that's a matter of opinion aswell .
    3 - She has never shown how high can she really get , and I believe that if she wanted , she could probably use whistle register as well as Xtina .
    4 - again whether you like a voice or not , is a matter of opinion.

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  68. Hi DD,
    I find this video very very interesting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN2TbWMvuw
    and I think it would be great to put that in her profile, to show each and every point of her amazing vocal talent.
    I find listening to Beyonce the best way to learn how to sing correct and with healthy technique. I have no idea how it works, but I find singing any song (not only Beyonce's) easier after watching some of her performances. Am I the only one? :D
    Cheers

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  69. Beyonce has a full, 4 octave range, and I believe she is actually a dramatic soprano and not a mezzo, the fact that to my knowledge only Bey & Mariah have.hit.notes in the 2nd octave and bey has a 3range voice and mariah has five when mariahs voice only spans a octave higher than beys using her whistle reg. Is disturbing. Ms diva please edit thede classifications Asap

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  70. Beyonce holds a G#2 on her song named 'Disapear'

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  71. The fact that she can sing and dance at the same time. (Y) It's like she's never out of breath!

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  72. So the video for 'I Was Here' has dropped...I must say I really like it, for it being a charity single and (predictable) video she manages to make it about the situation rather than about here...she does look incredible though ;)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i41qWJ6QjPI

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  73. Hmmm...I didn't really like it. I like the 9/11 compilation video better.

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  74. I didn't see that one? Is it for this song too? I liked how the vocals seemed to sound either live or re-recorded here though too!


    Either way I will be looking forward to hearing new material from her, I wonder what kind of random sound she will go for this time lol

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  75. Well, it wasn't an official video or anything, but that's what this song was originally supposed to be for. I guess now she's dedicated it to another cause. I just think it was more suited for 9/11 but whatever, I love the song regardless. It did seem kinda random on the album though, haha. This and Run the World didn't really fit. And as for hearing new material, of course, I'd love that!

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  76. You have got to be kidding me! watch this video, and THEN tell me that xtina has a better tone and voice than Beyonce...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdGS8JHOsQE

    Seriously, you could NOT be more wrong... But yes, Beyonce does have a much better technique.

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  77. I would like to say that i believe Beyonce is more UNDERRATED than OVERRATED. To all of those people here saying that she is overrated, far from. You should see how many comments i have read that say "oh yeah, she is a great performer." "Yeah, she's really entertaining." It bugs me because she is not underrated when it comes to her performing, but not many people TRULY know just how great of a voice she has. People credit her as a performer, but i wish people would credit her as a true vocalist, she is underrated in that matter.

    Because of her sex appeal, people are blind to the fact that she is amazingly talented even when the proof is right in front of them. People acknowledge that she can sing and dance at the same time, and say that that must mean she has great control over her voice, but they never truly understand the power and technique that she possesses. I could go into SO much more detail but i sense that i have rambled on for a while now...

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  78. I TOTALLY AGREE YOU LITERARILLY STOLE MY WORDS!

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  79. I feel like Beyoncé's technique is good,but honestly,it's too perfect. And she fails to give emotions.I don't feel touched by her voice.It's not about hitting the high notes, but giving emotions and love... I don't feel touched by her voice. I ain't a hater

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  80. No offense and I am no Beyonce fan at all so therefor have no view on how well she conveys emotion but this is the second time this week I see a comment in which someone is claiming perfection excludes emotion. I just wanted to say to that one...Bollocks! Utter Bollocks made up by fans of technically poor singers no doubt.

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  81. I think the above meant to say that while technically quite good, it is their opinion that Beyonce lacks a personal, emotional sound to her music. I think that's what some of these people really mean. They just aren't using the most accurate words. ;-)

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  82. What ever the reason for the use, my issue is with the basic argument. :)

    Possibly you are correct and that is what Lalita meant to say. It may even be what everybody who uttered that notion MEANT to say. (The other person I saw claim it recently was speaking of some other singer btw. And I have seen it said by journalists in concert and album reviews of very different people as well. Likely they also merely meant to convey that they personally experience a lack of emotion.)

    Like I said, that may be truly absent or it may not. Fact remains that to me the claim that perfection would be the reason/cause for the absence of emotion in itself is ...bollocks. :)

    I give you exhibits A.B and C...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4g3hz-wQxo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jXrmAKBBTU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuZTk1hdpMs

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  83. I think Beyonce has a good voice that she has developed over her career. I think it is clear where and how she has improved over time as her voice sounds more resonant than it did during her days in DC. Her sound really gains its unique character around a C4. Her head voice can be overbearing compared to Kelly Rowland whose head voice I find more palatable but that could be my own personal preference.

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  84. Her singing techniques are amazing...

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  85. as a dancer myself, i can tell you that Beyonce is an impeccable dancer.

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  86. Her vocal range is from A2-E6...I think thats 3 octaves 4 notes..

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  87. You know your stuff!

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  88. Her range is actually A2-D6 I that there is a song that has her singing an E6 but that was more like an exclamation then actually so I'm just clarifying that.

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  89. Good to hear an intelligent opinion!I am a 78 year old Musician and agree with you,I also personally perceive the majority of entertainment today to be mediocre to say the least !

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  90. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia0RHbIBGmA

    This shows that our lovely Beyonce has a whistle register.

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  91. Xtina as the greatest and most versatile singer?


    You're kidding, right?

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  92. does beyonce have a range beyond c6? Can you clarify or change this, DivaDevotee?

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  93. Just because you have a better voice doesn't mean you are a better singer/vocalist. vice versa.

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  94. Beyonce hits some higher notes than are contained in this vocal profile in her new documentary, Life is But A Dream, at approx 13:05. She's mucking around live but they're higghhhhh.

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  95. She hits 2 C#6s and 2 Eb6s.

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  96. http://youtu.be/Kg-OAJRQs9k f#2-f#6 maybe? 4 octaves? could be Eb6's...

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  97. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHmKPZwcqD4

    well, I guess now you can't deny she's been higher than C6

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  98. Whitney's vibrato is far better than Beyonce's. Or anyone's really. Also, Celine is not a rock singer?! Leona definitely does not have the greatest vocal styling, she is just a mix of Mariah and Whitney (but not as good as either). And Jennifer (even though I like her) and Amber Riley are just second-rate Whitneys and actually both could out-belt Whitney, but they sound screechy when they go too high, unlike Whitney who didn't push her voice further than she knew she was capable of.

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  99. Hardly any other singer today - not Whitney, not Mariah, not Kelly C, not Beyonce - can sing jazz and blues, soul and funk, pop, R&B, rock, electro/dance, Latin and do them all so well. Christina can, so yes I'd agree with that person and say Christina is the most versatile singer out there right now.

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  100. Nicole is a trained dancer, as is Ciara, so they're far better dancers than Beyonce and Britney. Although Beyonce is obviously better than Britney as a dancer.

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  101. Nicole has trained in many different styles of dance since she was little so I think she is far better. So has Ciara (well, I know she's a professional, not sure what she's trained in though)

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  102. I don't think she strains as such, she adds a obvious rasp to it like in Something's Got A Hold On Me where she emulating Etta James' style. Not healthy but still, that was the point of it I think.

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  103. She barely hits F5s, especially in full voice properly though?

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  104. Yeah, I've seen that "D7". Squealy screams don't count.

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  105. LOL @ using Halo to try and prove she has soul. That song has maybe three words.

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  106. I've tried to understand her voice, it only makes me cringe.

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  107. Diva Devotee have you seen this?! This, and if you're in the mood for some sassy Queen Bey, watch her tour promo video (I'll post the link) and listen to her high operatic notes. Our baby Bey is soaring those high notes.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbN79D5ST-0

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  108. LOL @ implying soul is proven by number of words sang/spoken. By your reckoning, Nicki Minaj and Busta Rhymes would be some of the most soulful artists in history, right? Because they have hundreds of words per song? Busta Rhymes is the King of Soul and Nicki Minaj is the true Queen of Soul, move over Aretha? Perfect. Haha.

    Regardless, Beyonce had a delayed flight in Singapore and chose to go sing to a bunch of very sick children in a Singaporean hospital. She gave a talented, emotive performance that would've made the days/weeks of those children when they have little cause to be happy. Of course publicity would be huge from it, but she didn't have to do that. Don't turn something so positive into something "soulless".

    And FINALLY, before you claim you have "tried to understand Beyonce's voice but instead you just cringe", you might want someone to reiterate to you that you are talking about a vocalist that has been praised from singers and critics from almost every genre. Operatic singers and critics have praised her resonance, balanced tone, middle register and sheer vocal power. Arabic singers and critics have praised her melismatic ability and connectivity between registers. Pop and RnB singers, and their respective critics, galore have hailed her as an overwhelmingly talented superstar. Rolling Stones magazine never has anything bad to say about her vocal ability.

    Don't be a fan of her voice/music? That's fine! Everyone's entitled to their own tastes. Try and imply that she's an untalented vocalist and then propagate that on a public forum? Perhaps you should leave it to the people who actually understand vocals.

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  109. I saw this video countless times. That high note she hit was a b5. What if her next album is all operatic pop? Loll

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  110. What about in the top video? From her documentary? Those notes are highh, haha. Low sixth octave definitely.
    But she's sang like this a few times before, in the background of things and live performance.
    I personally loved the Diamonds Are Girls' Best Friend cover she did.

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  111. She hit a d#6.

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  112. Oh my lord, this advert has been on NON STOP in the UK. Seriously, every ad break seems to have had it playing. Since she sold out it's stopped, which makes sense I guess.lol

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  113. Whole profile needs an overhaul, I'd say...

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  114. I used to love this song-it's an E6 but it's not a whistle note.

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  115. Sounds pretty fantastic to me ;). Are you heading to the concert, by any chance? I couldn't be more excited. I'm going to diva concerts galore this year. Been to Rita Ora already, and have booked myself in for Rihanna, Beyonce and Pink. If you don't make it to any of them, I'm happy to message you how I rated them. I can't believe I'm going to a Rihanna concert; her latest vocals have sold me on her. When did I become a fan? Haha.

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  116. I agree. To my knowledge, her vocal range since b-day to album 4 has been g#2 (disappear)- d#6(rendition of 1+1 for life is but a dream documentary) for me, her live b2s are too resonant for them to be her lowest note. I was pretty sure she could go lower if she supported the note less and she did....her high notes....we all know how amazing those things are so there is no point in talking about them.

    But I can't resist...lol her tone overall is brassy which doesn't serve her low notes well at all. As she climbs the upper third and fourth octave, her brassy tone is like wow to me....it only intensifies and she enters the upper fourth and fifth octave with her belts. Sure as soon as she touches the fifth octave she becomes shrill but she combats it with her stellar vibrato wich only comes second to that of mine (lol).

    Her head voice is something I truly dislike though. Don't get me wrong, it is stellar as well but its too trumpet like. her volume capacity doesn't ad up with the tone which is me just nitpicking. Loll

    She probably has gone higher but definitely not lower. I saw a video claiming an f6 but I didn't bother to view it.

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  117. I respect your point of view but I will add my two cents here:

    (please note that I'm not trying to convince you to think otherwise or anything among these lines)

    If she is so talented why did her family have to put so much into making her and the group originally???? The voices such as Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, even Jennifer Hudson did not have to go through all the hoops that Beyonce had to go through to be noticed, to make it. It took years for Destiny's Child to score, at truly it happened after TLC's sad ending etc.

    People notice her FAKE and OVERBLOWN sex appeal because that's how Beyonce decided to portray herself, did she not?

    Beyonce is not a dancer. Walking, shaking ass is NOT dancing, however it is an exercise, and yes she can control her voice while walking and ass shaking. So she deserves points here. Additionally woman does not loose a note, she delivers, and she has an internal rhythm

    However, no matter what anyone wants to say about Beyonce, the woman deserves credit. She made it! She is an extremely hard and disciplined worker. And even Beyonce's haters should respect this fact.

    But her songs are very easily forgotten. She will never be someone of Celine Dion, Mariah Carey's, Edyta Gorniak's, Adele, or Jennifer Hudson's voice caliber! I think she realizes it and that's why she compensates with this overrated and overblown persona as a super power entertainer and dancer. And if I"m wrong, then why can't she just come out and just sing like Adele and sell 30 mil records from one album? If truly her voice, singing technique, and quality of sound are so great, why do all the extra stuff that everyone else already had done? She'll never catch up with Justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, or even Usher's dance moves. She does not have it!

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  118. If she is so talented why did her family have to put so much into making her and the group originally???? The voices such as Celine Dion, Mariah Carey, even Jennifer Hudson did not have to go through all the hoops that Beyonce had to go through to be noticed, to make it. It took years for Destiny's Child to score, at truly it happened after TLC's sad ending etc.

    People notice her FAKE and OVERBLOWN sex appeal because that's how Beyonce decided to portray herself, did she not?

    Beyonce is not a dancer. Walking, shaking ass is NOT dancing, however it is an exercise, and yes she can control her voice while walking and ass shaking. So she deserves points here. Additionally woman does not loose a note, she delivers, and she has an internal rhythm

    However, no matter what anyone wants to say about Beyonce, the woman deserves credit. She made it! She is an extremely hard and disciplined worker. And even Beyonce's haters should respect this fact.

    But her songs are very easily forgotten. She will never be someone of Celine Dion, Mariah Carey's, Edyta Gorniak's, Adele, or Jennifer Hudson's voice caliber! I think she realizes it and that's why she compensates with this overrated and overblown persona as a super power entertainer and dancer. And if I"m wrong, then why can't she just come out and just sing like Adele and sell 30 mil records from one album? If truly her voice, singing technique, and quality of sound are so great, why do all the extra stuff that everyone else already had done? She'll never catch up with Justin Timberlake, Janet Jackson, Michael Jackson, or even Usher's dance moves. She does not have it!

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  121. So, because she has been praised, I must agree? I don't like her voice and I think Halo is a really rotten way to try and prove otherwise. My point is that in Halo, she screeches the word Halo over and over and over again. Oh, and technique does not equal soul.


    Oh, and Nicki whats-her-face and Busta? They are rappers. If they are soulful, it's derived completely different. Let's stay on the topic of singers, or Beyonce rather.


    Not everyone is going to agree with your tastes. I don't expect people to dislike Beyonce because I do, I just don't understand the hype. There are certainly people without technique and skill that have much more to offer than the screech fest that is Beyonce.

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  122. Uhm, as far as I can tell from his two short lines comment...it was about having ''soul''. I don't see how you get from those lines any implying of ''untalented vocalist''.

    I DO get from your responses an implying YOU are somehow more capable of ''understanding vocals'' than other posters. In particular those who don't share your views.

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  123. That first question isn't really valid. I'm sure she could've been discovered otherwise.

    The record label has a say on her image, and they make her sexually appealing. I don't know if she would do what she does if that weren't the case, but I don't really care. Her sex appeal is not why I like her.

    To say all Beyonce does is walk and shake her ass is a bit much. "Sweat Dreams", "Single Ladies", and "Run The World", all featured some good choreography. While they're not particularly hard, she did absolutely OWN them. It's better to kill basic choreo than to mess up hard choreo. Beyonce is indeed a dancer.

    Her songs are forgettable? That's rather opinionated? But her biggest hits are still remembered till this day. "Bootylicious", "Crazy In Love", "Single Ladies", are all classics. She is far better than Adele, better than Jennifer Hudson, haven't really heard Edyta Gorniak's. Celine and Mariah are better than her though. I still think Beyonce has them edged out on a few categories though.

    Her overblown persona as a dancer? What?

    And Beyonce makes music that she likes. So to ask why can't she like Adele is like asking a bird to be a cat. That's not her style.

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  124. I do give my respects to her as an entertainer. But I can't help shake the feeling that some can't take it that not everyone likes her (again, this is MY opinion). They're trying so hard to change your opinion. Some are providing inconsistent info about her and arguing messily all over the site. Even Little Monsters are not so annoying.

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  125. Stay pressed and dislike my comment cause you can't find a retort. ;)

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  126. Just hit dislike because I don't agree. Particularly on the dancing bit.
    I didn't use words because I didn't feel like talking to a wall at that moment.

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  127. So you agree with the statement, "All Beyonce does is walk and shake her ass"?

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  128. Like talking to a wall. READ!
    I did not say I disliked your comment because I agreed with the comment you responded to. I wrote...''I disliked because I don't agree''...with what YOU said about her ''dancing''

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  129. Well it's basic choreography by the standard of a professional to be exact.

    I've watched her performances, and she is always on-rhythm and always energetic.

    I'd appreciate it if you'd stop making snide remarks about my comprehension please.

    And well I guess it depends on your definition of dancing. Btw, shaking your ass actually is a dance-move. Anyways, are you saying she never dances?

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  130. I hardly think they are snide remarks. They are quite open and fully in response to you displaying a lack of comprehension. So far at least three times in this exchange alone.
    ''If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck....''

    Your latest question being again a perfect example. I'm sure what I am saying about Beyonce's dancing is very clear to 9 out of 10 who read my words. But you again have to ask a question involving suggesting something I never said and looking for an answer already in my previous replies.
    How else is one supposed to take you continuously posting such questions BUT as a sign you lack comprehension.
    Just fyi...asking a question in and by itself is already a clear indication one lacks comprehension.

    Now I would appreciate you would stop talking down to me. Probably as much as you would appreciate my pretending to not notice your lack of comprehension and instead continue to endlessly spell out the simplest of statements..
    Difference is, where as you would prefer me to close my eyes to demonstrated fact, I would prefer you to open your eyes to demonstrated fact. We seem to have a philosophically opposite worldview here.

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  131. Again, I'd like it if you stopped. I get it Opie, you think I have comprehension problems, you can stop repeating yourself darling.

    And how is it not a valid question? You specifically said you don't think she should be considered a dancer.

    I know what a rhetorical question is, again, you don't have to be so rude.

    I'M TALKING DOWN TO YOU? I can't with you... I'd like to say things right now that would be hurtful, but I'll refrain.

    And Beyonce is a professional is she not?

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  132. First of all, you said, "I meant to imply that what Beyonce does, doesn't, in my opinion, rate calling her a dancer." You tell me I'm the one with the problem, when time and time again, you've made comprehension mistakes yourself.
    But anyways, Beyonce is a professional entertainer. Therefore, the things she does on stage are on a professional level.
    Me calling you "darling" is not me talking down to you. If that is the only example of me talking down to you, your case doesn't hold much water. "Darling", is a word Mariah Carey uses a lot, as do her stans. So I just thought I'd throw that in there.
    Again, you worry about the smallest things. I'm not here to talk about my word usage, or my comprehension, I'm here to talk about music, and musicians.

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  133. How is that my lack of comprehension? I'm pretty sure that 9 out of 10 readers will have no problem understanding that means that imo though Beyonce dances, it is not on a level which one would see of someone trained to be a professional dancer and so I would not call her a dancer.

    And no just because someone is considered a professional entertainer does not mean that everything they do on the stage is on a professional level. That is a example of failed logic.
    I give you...Taylor Swift. LoL

    No, that is not the only instance. I'm sorry but my case holds plenty of water. You telling me that what I care about are ''the smallest things'' is another. Which you just did...again.

    Comprehension is hardly a ''small thing'' if anytime someone tries to talk to you, their words are misunderstood and have to be spelled out over and over. Or they have to answer questions the answer to which is already in the words they posted.
    These things are not small but they are tedious to have to do.

    And if you are not here to talk about word usage...perhaps you should not first attempt to criticize others on it?

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  134. I disagree, but to each its own. She does basic professional dancing imo.

    When they entertain, they most certainly are doing it on a professional level. Taylor has her own style, and although I don't like it, it's still professional.

    Me saying you care about the smallest things is me saying I'm not here to talk about the things you are bringing up.
    And that's not an excuse, that is literally why I do it. It's a lambily thing I wouldn't expect you to get it.
    It isn't a small thing, but it's not something I care to talk about on a music blog.
    I bring it up because you bring it up. You're the one who starts by calling me dumb and illiterate, of course I'm going to respond. But I've grown tired of it, because I, and probably most of this site, are sick of seeing it all the time.
    LOL at you thinking I'm trying to convince you to share my taste.

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  135. Do you write everything I say down? That seems like a rather wierd thing to remember. I don't even remember when I said that...
    That's irrelevant really. All people are seeing on this thread is our argument. If I were a bystander, I'd be pretty sick of it.
    I don't make up the rules Opie. Taylor is professional recording artist.
    Haha, well I mean, the choreography for Single Ladies, Sweat Dreams and for Run The World was critically acclaimed, but I'm sure you're more knowledgable in the art than critics.

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  136. And there's that good old argument from authority again! FAIL
    ''Pop critics'' rofl

    If you were all that concerned about people who are by some magical means forced to read this argument...you might consider a tactic like uuuhmmm stop answering? Or you know...not throw down the gauntlet in the first place.

    Hahahaha yeah dude...I write it all down ...in my head. Right next to my personal synonyms bar. It's called a working brain.

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  137. Pop critics are still more credible than you... hate to be the first to tell you.
    That makes you rather hypocritical doesn't it? How can you say that when you continue to comment as well? The reason I'm still commenting is because I'm here to defend my idol.
    A working brain huh? I'm glad someone turned the switch up there just in time for you to remember a pointless comment.

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  138. I can say that because I am not the one worried. I pretty assume if someone doesn't care to read this...they just won't. So no...I am not being hypocritical at all.

    You were the one concerned. But just not enough to actually stop with what you worried might bother others.
    '' Hi stranger! Logic speakng. ''

    Yes a working brain oh poster of said ''pointless comment''. LOL

    As for your pop critics...what exactly makes you think their credentials are not equal or less than mine?
    Like I pointed out to you before....you actually don't know anything about me or my credentials.
    Here's a litttle something nobody seems to have pointed out to you yet..pop criticism....not really one of the exact sciences. Anybody who can write ( sorry arthur) and who can get himself hired by any magazine or blog to write reviews can call himself an ''art critic''.

    But you go ahead and add art critics to that , no doubt, loooong list of authority figures you bow down to Arthur. :-)

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  139. Alright. But if you'd care to read back, I said people are tired of us arguing about things such as comprehension, basically things that don't have to do with music. So as long as we're arguing about music, I'm fine with it.
    Yes, me telling you to get sleep is a pointless comment. It wasn't meant to be taken seriously.

    Anyways, have you gone to school for either music or dance? If not, you are not on the same footing as pop critics. They actually go to school for the things they go to. Now I'm not sure if you went to school or not (and judging from your social ineptness on the internet, you probably didn't have the best time there), but these people have.
    I don't bow down to critics. I read their opinions... big difference. Any one with a "working brain", would know it.

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  140. Oh dear...such confusion.
    Yes, I know what you said. And I know what I said. The big wait is for you to remember what each of us said.

    For one you never told me to '' get sleep''.
    I was referring to when you tried to get out of an earlier defeat by posting '' whatever you need to get to sleep'' in fact...I put that whole line in quotes just a few hours ago. How long DOES your memory go back exactly?

    'Social ineptness on the net'' rofl again with the judging you lack merit for.
    Weren't you the one claming I had built up a ''crew'' up here?
    I think, dear arthur, that's a little green monster called envy speaking. -)

    And you clearly are clueless as to what it takes to become a pop critic. As clueless as you are about my education and any other aspect of my life.

    As well as some of your own, by your own account. Because if you use pop critics as an argument of authority...that means you do bow down to their opinion. :-)

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  141. It doesn't seem like you remember what I said, otherwise you would've considered it when posting something telling me stop if I want us to stop arguing.

    I never told you to get sleep? "...you need to get to sleep" sounds a lot like I'm telling you to get sleep for some reason. That working brain of yours needs some repair.

    Using your own argument, you don't know me, so you don't my merit. Your social ineptness is a reference as to how you don't get a long with many people on this site, and also your candid disrespect towards said people. I'm dead at you thinking I'm envious of you. xD

    The point is they have some experience in music. Do you?
    I use some as arguments. Saying I bow down to them implies I worship them, which is not the case. Poor choice of words there.

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  142. Rofl dude you forgot the first word of that quote. An all important word in fact. It's an effing well know saying referring to bedtime stories people will tell themselves to facilitate them falling to sleep peacefully.
    You used it in the one of the other threads in an attempt to leave and save face.

    I am fully aware at the insult you tried to go for. I just pointed out it was undermined by your own earlier attempts. Your memory once again fails you. You alreay forgot how much you told everybody on this blog about yourself. I know you are a 15 year old naive child of average intelligence but with a below average comprehension of his own language.
    As I have shown you, science says your brain is about 9 years away from possibly reaching maturity. Especially the part of the brain responsible for reasoning capacity.
    THAT child, is why you lack the merit to judge any mattter which involves reasoning ability.
    That is also why it is completely out of the realm of your imagination that not everybody is a sheep, desirious to be accepted into a fold of sheep. Especially a fold of internet sheep.

    I dear Arthur, hang with the wolves here. Not the sheep. :-)

    And again...if you use them as an argument of authority, you are bowing down to them. ( and before you continue making a fool of youurself once again, why don't you just look up the meaning of ''to bow down'' before your next retort, you so worry might bore people)

    And also again , pop critics can be anybody who can write and manages to get hired to write about pop music.
    And again your logic fails as A: you don't know my experiences and B: experience in music doesn't make one capable of judging dancing.

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  143. To get back to subject...imo Beyonce's dancing is highly overrated and she is not deserving to be called a dancer. She is a singer who does a bit of dancing. Dancing consisting of a limited amount of moves which do not include much foot work.
    And you Arthur, and anybody else who wants to, is free to disagree.

    But if you want to argue I am wrong, you need to come up with solid argument. Argument from ( empty) authority doesn't carry weight.
    Nor do such statements as...it's simply choreography but she nails it because she moved on the beat and is energetic.

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  144. I respect your opinion. No one really praises her dancing ability though, I don't think it's underrated or overrated.
    But again, your view of her dancing is limited considering all you've seen is her Glatso performance.
    There is no right or wrong. You either think she's a good dancer or you don't. I do think she is a good dancer based on what I've seen, you don't. I'm not sure how knowledged you are about dance, but I am not. I've only been studying it for about 4 months now.

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  145. No Glastonbury is not all I've seen of Beyonce. I also saw her Superbowl show and some of her videos.

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  146. Yes, a couple.
    I never comment unless I've seen what I comment on. And when I can't get through the whole thing...I mention that and how much I did see.

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  147. And you're telling me you weren't impressed by Run The World???

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  148. We actually discussed that video before Arthur. And no, I am not impressed.
    If you take your eyes of Beyonce and take note of what's going on around her there, you will see she was actually surrounded by a whole group of dancers doing exactly what she was doing. Some executing the moves better. And those folks around her are professional dancers. They make their money dancing. Which means they have to be able to do not just Beyonce's choreography but many and very different choreographies at practically the, as the saying goes, ''drop of a hat''

    You might have been studying dance for four months...I've been an aficionada of all kinds of dance (except classical ballet) for several decades. From Astaire/rogers and that era,through flamengo, tango, to modern interpretive dance to even ice dance

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  149. Well I thought some of the footwork she did was impressive. Of course Beyonce's dancers' are better dancers than her.
    Oh wow, I never would've guessed. Is that just a hobbie or a profession?

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  150. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPefVDB4JM and http://youtu.be/rOHVEeLQFEQ?t=3m38s so it would be G#2-F6. about 3.7 octaves, aren't they? Sorry, I'm new to this.

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  151. Well I have been a "fan" of dancing since I was born, but that doesn't make me an expert. Have you actually studied the art?

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  152. First off, even IF you had been intensily looking at different styles dance performances from ''the moment you were born'' ( which anybody doesn't even need more sense than fly for to realise ian utterly ridiculous claim) I'd still have at least a decade of that on you Arrthur.
    Secondly...did you even watch those videos. I suspect you actually might have, realised I am correct in stating Beyonce's footwork in ''run the world'' and in fact her dancing in general is not half as impressive to those who have seen a hell of a lot more dancing than you in your nearly 16 years alive.
    And were you could have shown a tiny bit of maturity and just simply stop replying. Or more maturely, admit that possibly you don't know all that much about dance and were unduly impressed with Beyonce's dancing.

    But nope...you decide to come with an utterly silly attempt to both claim you've seen as much dance as I have AND that though I cannot judge dance based on 35 years of viewing dance performances, YOU with your not even 16 years on this earth and four months lessons CAN.

    There really is no even near mature discussion possible with you.I'm not even going to speculate on whether that is due to age, intellect or simply because you are stanning. It doesn't really matter why. It simply is not possible.

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  153. You have a problem... I don't know why you are responding in such a rude manner. I wanted to know exactly to what extent you've been following dance. Being a fan can mean many things. That's your problem, you think everything I say is an insult, when in reality I was trying to have a mature conversation with you about dance, seeing as we are both dance enthusiasts.
    "Since I was born", is an expression Opie.
    Yes, I watched the videos, they were much better than Beyonce. However, when I said her footwork is impressive, I did not mean compared to the likes of Fred Astaire. It was impressive for Beyonce. I don't think everything she does is impressive, in fact, I'm impressed by very little of her dance routines. For example, in the Superbowl, the only bit of choreography I was impressed by was 20 seconds of "End Of Time", and 10 seconds of "Single Ladies".
    You probably do more about dance than me, I never said you didn't. I will reiterate, stop assuming things.

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  154. Yes my problem is that you don't seem to be able to write ''what you mean''.

    My other problem is that you refuse to take responsibility for that inability.

    My third problem is that I'm silly enough to still respond to you and your nonsense.

    I'm going to solve all three problems in one fell swoop by simply refraining from the latter. :-)

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  155. You could just admit that you were wrong for responding like that to a completely harmless post, but that's cool too.

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  156. I posted this in the voice of the generation topic and i'll repost it here because i think its appropriate and relevant:

    Singing is both an art and a skill, so to be a truly great voice you need to have great musicality and interpretive ability, coupled with a great technique and resultant vocal quality.

    Christina Aguilera has none of these things. What she has is a powerful voice, pleasant tone (within her tessitura/comfort zone) and great conviction which in turn makes her emotive. However she is severely lacking in musicality and interpretive ability. She has a selection of memorized rock n roll/soul generic runs she has heard from soul legends and regularly employs regardless of what genre she is singing or what treatment a songs lyrics and musical arrangement call for. Her technique is AWOL and this was not a problem in her early years when youth carried her and endured the trauma her poor technique placed on her vocal chords. However the vocal damage wrought has been evident from Bionic onwards.

    Casual listeners, especially those of the American Idol/X-factor generation all too often focus solely on the most obvious aspects of singing which are range, power and tone which is a shame because the areas that call for the most praise are technique and musicality. The ability to sing with a combination of skill, intelligence and appreciation for factors such as the occasion and the sentiment called for by a songs lyrics and musical arrangement.

    To be the voice of the generation, you need to have all of the above as well as a prominent place and impact on modern pop culture, critically and commercially.

    Whether someone is emotive or not is down to opinion and is dependent on an individual listeners personal experiences so cannot really be used as criterion in this.

    Through her defining contributions to modern rnb and pop through Destinys Child and as a solo act, her mainstream success that saw acts like the Spice Girls attempt and fail to switch to RnB, that ushered in an almost rap-like vocal delivery in RnB music, her mass appeal and influence that has caused internet wide dance crazes, her almost peerless technique, her clearly evident growth on a musicality and technical front that saw her tone down her excessive riffs and runs from her DC era to giving appropriate and intelligent vocal performances to tribute Barbra Streisand and as a part of her Cadillac Records and "4" works, ushering in a new president TWICE, earning an unrivalled amount of grammys in comparison to her peers, sold out concerts worldwide from fans clamouring to hear sing despite the absence of a supporting single or album, Beyonce is clearly THE voice of this generation.

    Kelly Clarkson comparatively lacks the vocal skill and worldwide mainstream impact culturally and in commercially. Simply preferring her tone and music is not sufficient reason to give her a greater nod than Beyonce.

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  157. You haven't really addressed his points to be fair. I agree with Mperry93. You could do with being a lot more objective. Hate Beyonce as a person, as a celebrity, hate her style of singing and music and thats all completely fine and your prerogative, but when you state that she has no vocal talent, thats your bias talking because she has vocal talent in spades. On a technical and therefore skill perspective, she is almost peerless in her generation of singers. She is consistently pitch perfect, her vocals are resonant, she has great agility enabling her to employ intricate runs of various speeds she controls, she has a well balanced vibrato and ease between registers. All of that are measurable quantities so it is fact. What would be opinion would be how soulful i think she is or how pleasant or unpleasant someone might find her tone. See the difference now? You cannot credibly dismiss her clear talent as a screech fest because you do not enjoy her tone or music. Screeching would be Xtina aguilera who has poor technique and so literally shouts or screams. Beyonce vocalizing a lyric or run in her upper register in a controlled manner is not screaming. Thats your bias talking.

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  158. G#2: http://youtu.be/B4X3YroD7tI?t=21s
    F6 (exclamation): http://youtu.be/rOHVEeLQFEQ?t=3m38s
    D7 (weird prince-like exclamation): http://youtu.be/Z5Qfo3aLMhI?t=1m25s

    I don't think Beyonce's able to 'sing' a D7 but i still wanted to show you guys. With the F6 her range would be 3.7 octaves, wouldn't it? I'm new to all that vocal knowledge-stuff :/

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  159. Exclamations are not really apart of a vocal she could possibly be able to sing up there but it doesn't count.

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  160. I DON'T LIKE HER VOICE! HATE IT. It is an entirely SUBJECTIVE MATTER.

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  161. beyonce is a coloratura mezzo soprano she can be a dramatic or lyric mezzo but she has coloratura techniques...

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  162. Who sounds like her? I've only found one singer that has the exact tone as her. That's not a matter of imitation, it's a matter of her being born with the same tone. How can you say she can be easily imitated? No one can pull off her runs like she does. No one can imitate her dynamics.

    LMFAO @ you saying youtube singers and Kelly Rowland can be compared to Beyonce!

    She's not a natural talent? Are you implying that working on your singing, performance and dance skills unlock some sort of unnatural talent? Just because she is trained doesn't mean she's not a natural talent. Frankly, all talents are natural.

    Saying her voice sounds the same in every song is preposterous, as is saying she isn't versatile. Beyonce can show a variety of different emotions, as well as expirement with different genres. In fact, I'd say she's one of the most versatile singers of our generation. Emotion wise: Resentment (anger), I Miss You (Vulnerability), All I Could Do Was Cry (sadness), Naughty Girl (sexual),Video Phone (attitude), Countdown (happiness.) Genre wise: All I Could Do Was Cry (soul) Amazing Grace (gospel) Love On Top (r&b) Bow Down (hip hop) Ave Maria (opera) Sex On Fire (rock) Independent Woman (Jazz, in the live version she does some beautiful scat singing). Show me another singer who can sing all these genres.

    Xtina just sounds down right unpleasant when she belts IMO.

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  163. Being in a group has nothing to do with how talented you are and that is the truth. Many people have said they should have never started Destiny's child because they held each other back because all the girls were vocally advanced. She was the lead singer of the group and she got the most of the spotlight because she was the lead singer. Last time I checked Kelly and Michelle came out with solo albums too and still are. Are they doing successful? Not like they should be because people do not pay attention to them. The fact is you cant use that as a situation to say she isnt talented because that would mean Michael Jackson is not talented at all because he started in a group just like Beyonce and Michael Jackson's exposure was way more extreme than Beyonce in Destiny's Child . Also Destiny's Child came to their peak between writings on the wall and Survivor in 2001 and Left Eye died in 2002. Left Eye was ready to go solo anyways that is why she released Supernova. So know what you are talking and stop downing her because of who she is.

    Also her being fake is not what she portrays herself as. Being fake is something that people perceive of you. Many people think she is fake, some people think she is full of herself, some people think she is down to earth, but at the end of the day you thinking that she is fake is YOUR opinion. Now she does portray herself with sex appeal but she also carries herself as a woman. There are many woman in the world that are classy but with sex appeal. You need to go look at half of Mariah Carey's videos and tell me she doesnt use her sex appeal as a focal point in her videos. Also Mariah Carey is fake.

    Beyonce doesnt just booty shake and walk. Obviously you do not watch her perform because there are many performances where she actually dances. For example Ciara during her performances grinds a lot but that doesnt mean she cant dance. Beyonce is a dancer obviously you do not know what you are talking about she may not go in other styles of dance but she could go into different styles of dance if she wanted too.

    Honestly Beyonce only has four solo albums and if she would have released more her album sales would be higher. If Beyonce released over 5 albums like most of the people you stated she would sell more because she is a household name and is a strong album seller. Also her songs may not be memorable to YOU but it maybe memorable to other people. Some people do not remember Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, or Mariah Carey's songs but others do. So the thing about her being memorable is an opinion. Its funny because the people are the ones that give her the credit and now that she takes the credit she is fake, a diva, disrespectful and full of herself. Its funny because she entertains just like Michael Jackson did and she is all this extra stuff. People talk about oh she needs dancers, and other stuff but Beyonce has done many performances just singing. People just dont want to see somebody just sit and sing, people want entertainment. Her singing technique is AMAZING which is true obviously you dont know vocals if you say no, nobody said her voice was on the level of whitney and mariah but her voice is stiil good and her quality is good but obviously that is an opinion for everybody. Beyonce's main focal is not dancing like JT, JJ, MJ, or Usher but she is the most all around artist. She does have it and she obviously has the it factor. She sold out a tour without an album or single out so obviously does have it! DUH!

    Yes she is a hard ass worker but all this bad stuff you said about her pratically disregards the compliment. You compliment her but also pull her through the mud.

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  164. Also Adele selling 30 million with one album is something that she has only done so think about what you are saying. That means Jennifer Hudson, Mariah Carey, etc aint shit either so please hush it up and it means their voice arent all that either. I practically countered all your blows because you arent careful about what you are saying. From your first paragraph to your last paragraph.

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  165. Dude, I'd leave off the attempts at logic if I were you. Really not something you mastered sufficiently.

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  166. Opie, take your comments about people's intellect else where. Preferably somewhere where people actually care.

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  167. Arthur I told you I'd give you two freebees. I gave you more than that but now I've had enough. You are not the moderator little boy. But good for you for no longer needing an alias. :-)
    Fyi by all acounts more people care about my comments than they do about yours. Sorry that bothers you so much. And it does kiddo. You seem to be quite obsessive about votes on your comments. :-)

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  168. Arthur, mind your own business child. I'm sorry you are once again not up to the taskof understanding but this new stan attempted to counter an argument with logic and utterly failed. For all I know he's as big on shining his light under a bushel as you are and you both are intellectual giants who just take pleasure in posting comments here which make you look quite the opposite. My responses are only to those comments.Is that better child?

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  169. I love how you think everyone who disagrees with you is me. xD It's quite amusing actually.
    On the contrary Mary Poppins, it doesn't bother me at all. Thanks for bringing it up though! Says a lot about how desperate you are to prove you're "better" than me.
    You can continue to draw false conclusions about me though. I think your working brain is being a little over-worked. I mean, the amount of time you dedicate to arguing others on is truly phenomenal. Just a thought Dopie.

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  170. I can only imagine how condescending and unpleasant you are in real life... Yikes!
    Anyways, if you think I try to appear as an intellectual giant, I'm quite flattered really. I could say the same for you though. You appear to be very smart, but the arguments you make are just incoherent and stupid.

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  171. Lol sure 'Scoopz'' you've got everybody fooled.
    But now that I'm responding, I'm cutting in on your endless wondering and even asking me, who downvoted your comment.
    I apologize and will let you get back to posting comments on that, to you fascinating, subject. :-)

    Btw do you at all realize that now that you are brave enough to post the attempted insult under your Arthur account, the downside is you will look an even bigger fool complaining over my language?
    I'm guessing...you don't.

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  172. Rofl I told you already 'Scoopz'' you simply posting claims do not make them facts.
    And I don't ''appear''. I am. :-)

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  173. Your foolishness right now. I already disproved that possibility on another thread. But go ahead and cling to assumptions you know are wrong, it doesn't make you look very intelligent.

    And you're right. I am indeed fascinated as to how one can be so pressed that they dislike a comment as harmless as, "Wow, is she really that popular over there?"

    Btw do you realize your continuation of the matter makes you look like an even bigger fool? I'm guessing you don't. :-/

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  174. LMFAO, just like you claiming I operate under multiple accounts? xD

    You're so humble too, ya little braggart you.

    "...you both are intellectual giants who just take pleasure in posting comments here which make you look quite the opposite." Suggests that you believe I am an intellectual giant who posts stupid things. Practice sentence structure Dopie, it works wonders. :)

    I will reiterate for now a 3rd time, I will respond to anything I feel is wrong. But wise choice, it certainly does leave with some dignity.

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  175. Like I said dimwit...I am NOT suggesting that deal for a third time. You just feel free to advertise you are a nitwit to your heart's content kiddo. :-)

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  176. Uhhhh Mariah's sold 30 million with "Music Box" IIRC.

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  177. Do words escape your brain that quickly? Like I said, I don't think your working brain is working very well anymore.
    If you care to ACTUALLY read what I wrote, (and what you wrote), this is what YOUR mess of sentence implies. Invest your time in wording your sentences so that you can say what you actually mean!
    It's been a pleasure Dopie.

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  178. How are you going to tell arthur mind his own business but yet you are meddling in business that is not your business? Yea go sit down somewhere hypocrite.

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  179. "mind your own business child. I'm sorry you are once again not up to
    the taskof understanding but this new stan attempted to counter an
    argument with logic and utterly failed. And it was the at least third
    time he tried and failed.
    Now,for all I know he's as big on shining
    his light under a bushel as you are and you both are intellectual giants
    who just take pleasure in posting comments here which make you look
    quite the opposite. My responses are only to those failed attempts in
    his comments.Is that better child?


    As for who is or isn't interested in my comments. Hard to tell but
    here is what correctly applied logic does tell us. You sure are because
    in spite of my twice suggesting for us to no longe respond to eachothers
    comments...you don't seem to be able to.

    And also you cannot
    read minds and therefor are not in a position to speak to the interests
    of others.Unless of course you took a summercamp at mindreading as well?
    In which case ..I stand corrected kid.s/
    ( that last line was sarcasm btw. In case you feel the need to ask me in your next reply as to what I meant by that line)" stated by Opie Ever

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  180. Im pretty sure I mentioned other names..... Thanks

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  181. Haha I find it funny because you actually think you are so intelligent but you should know not to argue with people that are supposedly not as intelligent as yourself. You must be a child that wants attention but its cool because after this comment you not getting a reply from me so stop with your desperate attempt to get attention from everybody. I have looked through this discussion and it is apparent you do not like Beyonce and that is cool. Im not that type of stan because I respect people's opinion but as for you I think you need to get your self together.

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  182. It shows that your statements are poorly researched, which is very telling.

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  183. Dude, I said nothing regarding your other arguments. Nor about the way you are going around telling people to shut up.(so no...the tone of your arguments do not show you ''respect people's opinions'')
    I only said you should not attempt logic.
    Your argument here is another example. Intelligence and social ettiquette are not the same thing. It is not a logical conclusion you made there.

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  184. Yes, that is exactly what I posted. No idea what the point is here?

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  185. About the fact that other singers didn't have to go through all those hoops to make it big.Let's start with Mariah,she was sleeping on the floor for TWO YEARS before she was discovered and was rejected a lot(and Mariah has one of the most amazing voices I've ever heard no one can compare).Secondly have you heard Beyonce singing Emotions with Celine Dion...you can clearly hear Beyonce has more power and better tone then Celine Dion(who I think is WAY WAY WAY overrated).Also Adele's first album was a commercial flop,few noticed her before someone like you.Lastly watch Beyonce's live concerts then you'll see she is the voice of our generation she has a powerful voice,a lovely tone to her voice and can dance the hell out of songs...there is no one like her and no one can compare to her PERIOD!...also Jennifer Hudson isn't great, she screams too much probably the reason she isn't a mega superstar.(btw Jennifer Hudson was told by Simon she can't sing and didn't even make the top 3 on American Idol,which is a vocal show)

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  188. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHVEeLQFEQ&feature=youtu.be&t=3m38s

    Are you talking about that F6 ? :)

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  189. Beyonce's range needs to be updated, it is A2 - F6. With that said her range is 3.6 octaves :) To be honest I think she can go higher than F6!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_611327&feature=iv&src_vid=0LXDWnM7e7k&v=C2mbJOKfabw#

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOHVEeLQFEQ# (go to 0:39 to hear an F6)

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  190. Black Robin2 May 2013 03:56

    Sorry, sweetie the video is not available in my region. Is the song purple rain?

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  191. It is available in my region. You are correct...it's of Purple Rain

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  192. Commenting and responding in open forum are my business.
    Acting like a moderator...is the moderator's business.
    So no.I am not being a hypocrite. Sorry dude, again you fail at the same thing.

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  193. Black Robin2 May 2013 04:39

    Oh. Well if I remember right, she maintained the f6 for about a second or so. It doesn't count a sustained note so her vocal range remains g#2-e6 which is still respectable. People really want her to have a four octave range. Lol if I ever become famous, I will make it clear evident that I have a typical three octave range so people won't be trying to add an octave.

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  194. She's grown a lot. I have seen A2-F6 from her and I would peg her as a coloratura mezzo-soprano.

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  195. Hey Spark! It's been rare. Good to see you are still around here. :-)

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